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Giant Middle East dust storm caused by a changing climate, not human conflict

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Re: Giant Middle East dust storm caused by a changing climate, not human conflict

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Dust storm caused by weather. Who'd a thunk?

From the article:

"At the time, the storm’s unusual severity was attributed to the ongoing civil war in Syria by media outlets in the Middle East, Europe and the United States. Reports blamed the conflict for changes in land use and cover—and for activities like increased military traffic over unpaved surfaces and farmers reducing irrigation or abandoning agricultural land—that created extreme amounts of dust to fuel the storm."

It wasn't really obvious at the time.

Re: Giant Middle East dust storm caused by a changing climate, not human conflict

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post #3

Dust storm caused by weather. Who'd a thunk?

From the article: "At the time, the storm’s unusual severity was attributed to the ongoing civil war in Syria by media outlets in the Middle East, Europe and the United States. Reports blamed the conflict for changes in land use and cover—and for activities like increased military traffic over unpaved surfaces and farmers reducing irrigation or abandoning agricultural land—that created extreme amounts of dust to fuel…

My beef is the obvious confusion of "climate" and "weather" in the article, with the further unsubstantiated assertion that such events will are "going to become more frequent in the future". As they say in Italy: Bologna.

Re: Giant Middle East dust storm caused by a changing climate, not human conflict

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>combination of climatic factors and unusual weather.

> Summer 2015 was unusually hot and dry relative to the last 20 years

So data over last 20 yrs is enough to conclude "changing climate" ?

> Middle East becomes more arid in the long term due to climate change

This article[1] blames it on ' farmers who pump water from limited underground aquifers '. Is there any proof that middle east is becoming more arid and it due to 'climate change' ?

1. http://www.aljazeera.com/video/middleeast/2013/03/2013322185...

Re: Giant Middle East dust storm caused by a changing climate, not human conflict

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post #5

>combination of climatic factors and unusual weather. > Summer 2015 was unusually hot and dry relative to the last 20 years So data over last 20 yrs is enough to conclude "changing climate" ? > Middle East becomes more arid in the long term due to climate change This article[1] blames it on ' farmers who pump water from limited underground aquifers '. Is there any proof that middle east is becoming more arid and it d…

Every bad thing must be attributed to climate, and climate must be attributed to man. Otherwise, what excuse will the rent-seekers have? Get with the program...

Re: Giant Middle East dust storm caused by a changing climate, not human conflict

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As usual, mindless assertions that we're all going to die of climate change get plugged; the contrary view gets down-voted because it's not the current orthodoxy. Beautifully stalinist: we have always been at war with EastAsia.

s/it's not the current orthodoxy/it's not the opinion of the vast majority of people who know what they are talking about and have studied it/

Re: Giant Middle East dust storm caused by a changing climate, not human conflict

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post #8

As usual, mindless assertions that we're all going to die of climate change get plugged; the contrary view gets down-voted because it's not the current orthodoxy. Beautifully stalinist: we have always been at war with EastAsia.

s/it's not the current orthodoxy/it's not the opinion of the vast majority of people who know what they are talking about and have studied it/

Sure the vast majority of people know what they are talking about. They get their opinions from journalists and rent-seekers.

Re: Giant Middle East dust storm caused by a changing climate, not human conflict

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

s/it's not the current orthodoxy/it's not the opinion of the vast majority of people who know what they are talking about and have studied it/

Sure the vast majority of people know what they are talking about. They get their opinions from journalists and rent-seekers.

You seem to keep saying the same old thing, but don't really say anything notable.

It's disingenuous of you to imply that GP is talking about a majority other than the scientific community, who know way more than you or me (or GP) about climate change and its possible anthropogenic causes.

[edit: the causes aren't doing impressions of humans]

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