The Crimes of SEAL Team 6
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The Crimes of SEAL Team 6
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#2The article basically says that some members of elite military units are psychopaths and acting as such.
How ... unsurprising, given their choice of occupation.
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#3The article basically says that some members of elite military units are psychopaths and acting as such. How ... unsurprising, given their choice of occupation.
What's suprising is the lack of consequences.
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#4The article basically says that some members of elite military units are psychopaths and acting as such. How ... unsurprising, given their choice of occupation.
The contents of this article notwithstanding, I'm not sure I feel comfortable with that kind of broad generalization. I'm sure there are a number of reasons why individuals would chose to serve in such roles, and like any large organization or industry, I'm sure there are people who fall within a wide spectrum of ethics or morality. I wouldn't necessarily think there are any more psychopaths in the military than there are in Silicon Valley.
As a counter point, albeit one steeped in personal anecdote, one of my best friends whom I've known since childhood, served a number of years in an elite military unit, and continues to do so in a slightly less elite Air National Guard unit, and he's probably the most honest, charitable, and fiercely loyal person I've had the privilege of knowing.
Re: The Crimes of SEAL Team 6
#5The article basically says that some members of elite military units are psychopaths and acting as such. How ... unsurprising, given their choice of occupation.
The contents of this article notwithstanding, I'm not sure I feel comfortable with that kind of broad generalization. I'm sure there are a number of reasons why individuals would chose to serve in such roles, and like any large organization or industry, I'm sure there are people who fall within a wide spectrum of ethics or morality. I wouldn't necessarily think there are any more psychopaths in the military than ther…
One man's loyalty is another man's thin blue line.
Re: The Crimes of SEAL Team 6
#6The article basically says that some members of elite military units are psychopaths and acting as such. How ... unsurprising, given their choice of occupation.
What's suprising is the lack of consequences.
I'm not going to defend war crimes.
What I'm going to say is that war is the worst possible display of inhumanity you're ever likely to imagine in your darkest nightmares.
I have several friends who have all served in elite military units. I have a photo of myself with Dick Marcinko from a few years ago. I've never served with any of them but I've spent good time with them and talked.
The reality of war is so horrible and dehumanizing that many never fully recover. I have a short list of friends that cannot sleep without chemical aid. One friend drank not a sip of water for over two years, instead drinking himself to a state of numbness until he was able to finally recover. He's killed many many men.
So I'm going to temper my own judgement of these men's actions with the knowledge that we train, equip, and expect these men to plan murder for our benefit. We expect them to inspire fear. And we send them into far off lands, away from their homes and loved ones, expose them to unimaginable cruelty to the point where their psyche is forever scarred, and then forget about that sacrifice once they've destroyed enough of themselves and others to satisfy us.
We command these men to look into the abyss and forget just how much the abyss is staring back into them.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's suprising is the lack of consequences.
I'm not going to defend war crimes. What I'm going to say is that war is the worst possible display of inhumanity you're ever likely to imagine in your darkest nightmares. I have several friends who have all served in elite military units. I have a photo of myself with Dick Marcinko from a few years ago. I've never served with any of them but I've spent good time with them and talked. The reality of war is so horribl…
I understand and agree with everything you said.
What are my options, as a regular citizen, to exclude myself from this "we?"
I don't want to send men to such destiny and I do believe that in 9 out of 10 cases only economic elites benefit from all this destruction, dehumanizations and suffering.
I never agreed to send them, but I do share the responsibility, expenses and repercussions / guilt.
What are my options?
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not going to defend war crimes. What I'm going to say is that war is the worst possible display of inhumanity you're ever likely to imagine in your darkest nightmares. I have several friends who have all served in elite military units. I have a photo of myself with Dick Marcinko from a few years ago. I've never served with any of them but I've spent good time with them and talked. The reality of war is so horribl…
I understand and agree with everything you said. What are my options, as a regular citizen, to exclude myself from this "we?" I don't want to send men to such destiny and I do believe that in 9 out of 10 cases only economic elites benefit from all this destruction, dehumanizations and suffering. I never agreed to send them, but I do share the responsibility, expenses and repercussions / guilt. What are my options?
Move to a country with no army
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand and agree with everything you said. What are my options, as a regular citizen, to exclude myself from this "we?" I don't want to send men to such destiny and I do believe that in 9 out of 10 cases only economic elites benefit from all this destruction, dehumanizations and suffering. I never agreed to send them, but I do share the responsibility, expenses and repercussions / guilt. What are my options?
Move to a country with no army
There aren't any of those left, sadly.