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Study: carpooling apps could reduce traffic 3x in NYC

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Re: Study: carpooling apps could reduce traffic 3x in NYC

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And a grid of regular bus service could replace every car in LA. That'd be a harder sell though.

Yeah but I bet you can't name 15 cities larger than LA that depend on an outdated tech like trains. When's the last time you saw one of those at TechCrunch Disrupt?

Seriously though, this is a solved problem everywhere but major US cities. Paris - which once loved cars - has totally changed over to being bus, bike, and train promoting, and it works.

Re: Study: carpooling apps could reduce traffic 3x in NYC

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And a grid of regular bus service could replace every car in LA. That'd be a harder sell though.

Yeah but I bet you can't name 15 cities larger than LA that depend on an outdated tech like trains. When's the last time you saw one of those at TechCrunch Disrupt? Seriously though, this is a solved problem everywhere but major US cities. Paris - which once loved cars - has totally changed over to being bus, bike, and train promoting, and it works.

There are cultural reasons why what works in Europe won't work in most of the US.

If I can't take my car or park for a reasonable fee, I simply won't go somewhere and most of the people I know are the same.

Re: Study: carpooling apps could reduce traffic 3x in NYC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but I bet you can't name 15 cities larger than LA that depend on an outdated tech like trains. When's the last time you saw one of those at TechCrunch Disrupt? Seriously though, this is a solved problem everywhere but major US cities. Paris - which once loved cars - has totally changed over to being bus, bike, and train promoting, and it works.

There are cultural reasons why what works in Europe won't work in most of the US. If I can't take my car or park for a reasonable fee, I simply won't go somewhere and most of the people I know are the same.

People are very adaptive

Re: Study: carpooling apps could reduce traffic 3x in NYC

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And a grid of regular bus service could replace every car in LA. That'd be a harder sell though.

Yeah but I bet you can't name 15 cities larger than LA that depend on an outdated tech like trains. When's the last time you saw one of those at TechCrunch Disrupt? Seriously though, this is a solved problem everywhere but major US cities. Paris - which once loved cars - has totally changed over to being bus, bike, and train promoting, and it works.

Not so fast though. Comparing Paris to LA isn't quite fair. Paris is about six times denser than LA and therefore creating a competitive public transportation network is quite a bit cheaper there.

Re: Study: carpooling apps could reduce traffic 3x in NYC

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This is great news, until we look at the open space and say, "Wow! Now we can fit so many more commuters on these streets."

Nature abhors a vacuum.

Not to denigrate the science, I respect the math greatly. It's just that NYC culture is about trying to cram the most things in one place. Few open resources like Central Park remain so very long.

Re: Study: carpooling apps could reduce traffic 3x in NYC

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And a grid of regular bus service could replace every car in LA. That'd be a harder sell though.

LA has a very underrated transport system. You can get pretty much anywhere, it just might take longer than by car, but only by an hour or two. Biggest hurdle is bus frequency, but even the routes on the hour are reliable and usable.

Re: Study: carpooling apps could reduce traffic 3x in NYC

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This is great news, until we look at the open space and say, "Wow! Now we can fit so many more commuters on these streets." Nature abhors a vacuum. Not to denigrate the science, I respect the math greatly. It's just that NYC culture is about trying to cram the most things in one place. Few open resources like Central Park remain so very long.

>This is great news, until we look at the open space and say, "Wow! Now we can fit so many more commuters on these streets."

>It's just that NYC culture is about trying to cram the most things in one place.

One possibility in this case is to just fill the streets with people in the way they transiently get filled during coordinated street closures and in the way they are more or less permanently so in the right areas of Barcelona, Paris, Pattaya, etc. This would take a lot of planning and lobbying to get done right I imagine.

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