Rust is Software's Salvation
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Rust is Software's Salvation
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Re: Rust is Software's Salvation
#2Rust has great potential to be a better tool for C and C++'s niches, and we're all rooting for it, but for those tasks where a type-safe GC'd pure functional language can be used, well, they still should be.
Re: Rust is Software's Salvation
#3How fast we forget Brooks. There is no silver bullet.
Re: Rust is Software's Salvation
#4>Better performance than C
That's a bold, yet generalized statement.
Re: Rust is Software's Salvation
#5The best defense is a good offense. What is scaring all of the Rust developers and users so badly that they feel the need to go on such an offensive hype campaign?
It's worse than the phase Java went through when it hit its peak.
I'll be honest. Until we start seeing some more balanced (frankly, I'd settle for nuanced) discussion about the compromises made to get Rust's strengths, I'm staying the hell away from it.
Re: Rust is Software's Salvation
#6The amount of hype Rust is getting is not going to end well for Rust. This reminds me of Ruby during 2007-2010 where it went from Patron Saint to Scapegoat for every startup that failed using it. Ruby survived it, and I'm sure Rust will too, but that doesn't make it obnoxious for everyone else who inevitably gets swept up in the craze and crash.
Programming is hard. Programming will always be hard. Better/newer tools (and sometimes influences from the old finally making it mainstream, like Standard ML) make programming easier but not fool proof. It's misleading and harmful to hype the crap out of any language.
Unfortunately this stupidity is never going to end as long as language creators measure language success in adoption numbers and TIOBE scores rather than the warm fuzzy feeling of handling certain people's needs really, really well.
Re: Rust is Software's Salvation
#7> Better performance than C That's a bold, yet generalized statement.
And, from most indications, incorrect. I think it's beat one C program on Alloth's benchmark game in processing time, but has been beat in the others.
It performs on par with C++, on the other hand, for what that's worth.
Re: Rust is Software's Salvation
#8The best defense is a good offense. What is scaring all of the Rust developers and users so badly that they feel the need to go on such an offensive hype campaign? It's worse than the phase Java went through when it hit its peak. I'll be honest. Until we start seeing some more balanced (frankly, I'd settle for nuanced) discussion about the compromises made to get Rust's strengths, I'm staying the hell away from it.
Not sure why marketing Rust implies that the community is trying to defend it. Honestly, I enjoy sharing with my experience with Rust because I personally enjoy writing in code with Rust and want to share that with others! Nobody is saying Rust is perfect or doesn't have tradeoffs.
Re: Rust is Software's Salvation
#9I expect the rebuttal "Rust is Software's Doom" soon.
Re: Rust is Software's Salvation
#10How fast we forget Brooks. There is no silver bullet.
Sure, but not all languages are equally bad. Will Rust become dominant? Unlikely. Will Rust's popularity continue to grow? For the foreseeable future, I'd say yes, mostly based on its merits.