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Why Aren’t There More Asian Americans in Leadership Positions?

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Re: Why Aren’t There More Asian Americans in Leadership Positions?

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I think this article is quite poor. It doesn't explain why you would expect there to be more Asians in the first place. Asians are over-represented in STEM fields. You could just as well ask a general question about "nerds" not getting hired into executive positions.

Re: Why Aren’t There More Asian Americans in Leadership Positions?

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I'm not a business leader by any means so keep that in mind.

I'm an Asian, and I don't see this as a problem tbh. American leaders have, historically, tend to be white men (think the first 49 presidents). We're definitely starting to see diversity in leadership positions. Obama, Sundar Pichai of Google, Satya Nadella of Microsoft, Yishan Wong/Ellen Pao of Reddit are some examples that come to my mind.

Even Ellen Pao, who received flak for some reddit drama, was never criticized for being an Asian female.

So yeah I'm not too worried. I think we're seeing a shift towards a more diverse country for sure. It won't happen overnight but it's definitely shifting.

Re: Why Aren’t There More Asian Americans in Leadership Positions?

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It would be interesting to correlate this with time of residency in the US. Of the companies cited, Google and Intel are in the top 20 H1B visa sponsors, so a sizable percentage of those Asian American employees might have been in the US for only a few years (and hired specifically to be individual contributors) http://www.myvisajobs.com/Reports/2016-H1B-Visa-Sponsor.aspx

Re: Why Aren’t There More Asian Americans in Leadership Positions?

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post #4

I'm not a business leader by any means so keep that in mind. I'm an Asian, and I don't see this as a problem tbh. American leaders have, historically, tend to be white men (think the first 49 presidents). We're definitely starting to see diversity in leadership positions. Obama, Sundar Pichai of Google, Satya Nadella of Microsoft, Yishan Wong/Ellen Pao of Reddit are some examples that come to my mind. Even Ellen Pao,…

That and there are a number of under the radar small to mid sized businesses (tech and non-tech) founded by Asians which are not publicly run companies who for the most part are run by Asians (mostly of the same ethnicity, but not always).

Re: Why Aren’t There More Asian Americans in Leadership Positions?

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Senior leadership is a club. People like to work with their friends, and the qualification to be a high level person in many situations has low correlation to skill.

Once you get in the club, you move up. I think South Asian asians do better here as many have excellent language skills. East Asians have a disadvantage there, and cultural friction makes it hard for "ABC" chinese. IMO it's less a glass ceiling for asians and more that people will take care of their tribe first. (ie. companies who only want to talk to Stanford alum, etc)

You see this in government. One city agency that I consulted with had a disproportionate number orthodox jewish folks and east africans in leadership positions -- associates of the boss and deputy boss. In a county in another state, all of the leadership of verticals were Indian from a specific region whose name escapes me.

Corporations are different, because corporate leadership is more incestuous and boards lack real power over hiring anyone outside the club, unlike a Mayor, Governor, etc who has total control.

Re: Why Aren’t There More Asian Americans in Leadership Positions?

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This is an important topic, but as often happens, the article just treads the same old themes. It's looking for answers in the usual places, when it's not clear the answers are there.

First of all, Asian Americans are still overrepresented in tech leadership positions. Just less than they are overrepresented in tech positions in general. So looking for a negative (discriminatory) effect may be the wrong thing - we may need to look for less of a positive effect instead. That's harder to do, of course.

Second, while the stereotypes described in the article may well play a role here, there are other explanations that are overlooked but may matter as much or more. We know that height is a significant factor in earning and in particular in getting to leadership positions. It's of comparable effect to the gender gap, but not as studied, because it's not "interesting" - US culture is focused on looking for discrimination on the familiar axes of race, gender and sexuality. But just like height might explain women's relatively low leadership rates, it might explain Asian American's, as they tend to be shorter.

Re: Why Aren’t There More Asian Americans in Leadership Positions?

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post #3

>It is time to rethink the “good leader” prototype of being masculine, dictatorial, and charismatic. Good luck, there's a reason those attributes are dominant.

Agreed. Anecdotally, uncharismatic, feminine pushovers seem to be less effective in leadership positions.
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