Uber’s self-driving cars start picking up passengers in San Francisco
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Re: Uber’s self-driving cars start picking up passengers in San Francisco
#2Just saw this: https://electrek.co/2016/12/14/uber-autonomous-rides-califor...
I am confused do they require a permit or is uber changing the claim/capabilities of the car to evade getting a permit?
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#3Just saw this: https://electrek.co/2016/12/14/uber-autonomous-rides-califor... I am confused do they require a permit or is uber changing the claim/capabilities of the car to evade getting a permit?
No permit as far as I can tell. They have drivers actively monitoring their vehicles at all times and are playing semantic games right now as that article says. The biggest disappointment to me is the way they're deliberately ignoring NHTSA's guidelines around collision and near-miss data sharing.
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#4Just saw this: https://electrek.co/2016/12/14/uber-autonomous-rides-califor... I am confused do they require a permit or is uber changing the claim/capabilities of the car to evade getting a permit?
From the original article referenced:
"The company doesn’t require a permit from the California DMV to operate in the state, it says, because the cars don’t qualify as fully autonomous as defined by state law because of the always present onboard safety operator."
Re: Uber’s self-driving cars start picking up passengers in San Francisco
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Re: Uber’s self-driving cars start picking up passengers in San Francisco
#6Just saw this: https://electrek.co/2016/12/14/uber-autonomous-rides-califor... I am confused do they require a permit or is uber changing the claim/capabilities of the car to evade getting a permit?
Interesting. My guess is Uber is just planning on paying the inevitable fines as is their modus operandi. I wonder how much an infraction like this costs? I doubt there's any precedent.
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#7They describe this as a third-generation vehicle, but it still requires multiple human-driver interventions over a single journey. How many more generations to reach reliable true autonomy?
Re: Uber’s self-driving cars start picking up passengers in San Francisco
#8Just saw this: https://electrek.co/2016/12/14/uber-autonomous-rides-califor... I am confused do they require a permit or is uber changing the claim/capabilities of the car to evade getting a permit?
That seems like click bait to me. I believe they require a permit for a fully autonomous vehicle, but since there's a driver in the car monitoring the systems with the ability to override, it isn't considered fully autonomous. This is neither sketchy, surprising, or even skirting the rules. The fact that it's picking up passengers seems mostly like a PR move to me as the income generated by them probably pales in comparison to the cost of the car plus the overhead of a (not typical) driver plus engineer.
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#9and never letting them go.
Re: Uber’s self-driving cars start picking up passengers in San Francisco
#10Just saw this: https://electrek.co/2016/12/14/uber-autonomous-rides-califor... I am confused do they require a permit or is uber changing the claim/capabilities of the car to evade getting a permit?
No permit. They're avoiding the regs like usual: https://www.ft.com/content/a6e8c5c4-c16e-11e6-81c2-f57d90f67...