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Why I still won’t review for or publish with Elsevier

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Re: Why I still won’t review for or publish with Elsevier

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Without reading the article, I presume his reason is that they are as close to pure evil as a scientific publishing company can get.

You should read the article :) It's very well written and I found it quite informative. I knew nothing about Elsevier other than that I have used some of their textbooks when I was in school. They were very expensive.

The only thing in the whole article that I feel qualified to comment on was his assertion that Trader Joe's mistreats their employees. It must be a regional thing, because the TJ's around here are excellent places to work (anecdotally and based on my long chats with employees, as a frequent shopper).

Re: Why I still won’t review for or publish with Elsevier

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Without reading the article, I presume his reason is that they are as close to pure evil as a scientific publishing company can get.

You should read the article :) It's very well written and I found it quite informative. I knew nothing about Elsevier other than that I have used some of their textbooks when I was in school. They were very expensive. The only thing in the whole article that I feel qualified to comment on was his assertion that Trader Joe's mistreats their employees. It must be a regional thing, because the TJ's around here are excel…

> ...his assertion that Trader Joe's mistreats their employees.

He's not asserting that, he's using it as a hypothetical example:

"If I were to boycott, say, Trader Joe’s, on the grounds that it mistreats its employees (for the record, I don’t think it does)..."

Re: Why I still won’t review for or publish with Elsevier

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Without reading the article, I presume his reason is that they are as close to pure evil as a scientific publishing company can get.

You should read the article :) It's very well written and I found it quite informative. I knew nothing about Elsevier other than that I have used some of their textbooks when I was in school. They were very expensive. The only thing in the whole article that I feel qualified to comment on was his assertion that Trader Joe's mistreats their employees. It must be a regional thing, because the TJ's around here are excel…

tim gowers's blog is very informative on the subject: https://gowers.wordpress.com/category/elsevier/

this one is a good starting point: https://gowers.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/elsevier-my-part-in-...

Re: Why I still won’t review for or publish with Elsevier

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Without reading the article, I presume his reason is that they are as close to pure evil as a scientific publishing company can get.

Yes, essentially they systematically try to hamper open access to articles while also extracting as much money as possible from the scientific community. As a corporation all of this makes sense because they want to make money, but that is why boycotting is a good response as it will give them a profit motive to stop trying to hamper science.

Re: Why I still won’t review for or publish with Elsevier

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Without reading the article, I presume his reason is that they are as close to pure evil as a scientific publishing company can get.

That said, Elsevier really do take some risks to publish rather good publications. I've met with them in the past and they are very keen on technical authors.

That was eight years ago, maybe things have changed but they still represent a certain quality in my mind. Them with Addison Wesley in the early 90's.

Sorry to hear there are some issues though. Hopefully they will read the thread and make any necessary adjustments, the owners were very nice people.

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