A Programmer Evaluates the MacBook Pro (Touch Bar)
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Re: A Programmer Evaluates the MacBook Pro (Touch Bar)
#2How does a programmer evaluate this machine without discussing at least one of vi and emacs, and the absence of real Esc and Fn keys?
By the way, I visited an Apple store and played with the new 15" MBP. It's even worse than I thought. I downloaded the latest Gnu Emacs, and the Fn virtual keys were not available. And in no case did I see the Esc and Fn virtual keys present at the same time.
Also ridiculous is the fact that the touch bar is not available on any keyboard other than the built-in MBP keyboard. So you now have to choose between the features of the touch bar and the comfort of external peripherals.
It is astonishing how many bad decisions were packed into this one revision of a formerly great machine.
Re: A Programmer Evaluates the MacBook Pro (Touch Bar)
#3How does a programmer evaluate this machine without discussing at least one of vi and emacs, and the absence of real Esc and Fn keys? By the way, I visited an Apple store and played with the new 15" MBP. It's even worse than I thought. I downloaded the latest Gnu Emacs, and the Fn virtual keys were not available. And in no case did I see the Esc and Fn virtual keys present at the same time. Also ridiculous is the fac…
>If you need access to function keys (F1–F12), hold down the Function (fn) key at the bottom-left of your keyboard. Touch Bar changes to show the function buttons for you to select, and then it returns to its previous state when you release the Function key.
Re: A Programmer Evaluates the MacBook Pro (Touch Bar)
#4The person who reviewed this may have been a programmer, but the review doesn't seem to be in context of programming. I care about how well I can work on it, not now well it works with remotes.
> The MacBook Pro is more an evolutionary than a revolutionary upgrade over my MacBook Air.
That seems to sum up this review. The macbook pro is a successor to the air, not the old macbook pro.
Re: A Programmer Evaluates the MacBook Pro (Touch Bar)
#5How does a programmer evaluate this machine without discussing at least one of vi and emacs, and the absence of real Esc and Fn keys? By the way, I visited an Apple store and played with the new 15" MBP. It's even worse than I thought. I downloaded the latest Gnu Emacs, and the Fn virtual keys were not available. And in no case did I see the Esc and Fn virtual keys present at the same time. Also ridiculous is the fac…
Not every programmer cares about vi and emacs.
Re: A Programmer Evaluates the MacBook Pro (Touch Bar)
#6How does a programmer evaluate this machine without discussing at least one of vi and emacs, and the absence of real Esc and Fn keys? By the way, I visited an Apple store and played with the new 15" MBP. It's even worse than I thought. I downloaded the latest Gnu Emacs, and the Fn virtual keys were not available. And in no case did I see the Esc and Fn virtual keys present at the same time. Also ridiculous is the fac…
>>How does a programmer evaluate this machine without discussing at least one of vi and emacs, and the absence of real Esc and Fn keys?
What percentage of programmers use vi or emacs?
Re: A Programmer Evaluates the MacBook Pro (Touch Bar)
#7How does a programmer evaluate this machine without discussing at least one of vi and emacs, and the absence of real Esc and Fn keys? By the way, I visited an Apple store and played with the new 15" MBP. It's even worse than I thought. I downloaded the latest Gnu Emacs, and the Fn virtual keys were not available. And in no case did I see the Esc and Fn virtual keys present at the same time. Also ridiculous is the fac…
Did you not read the article? That was addressed directly.
Re: A Programmer Evaluates the MacBook Pro (Touch Bar)
#8How does a programmer evaluate this machine without discussing at least one of vi and emacs, and the absence of real Esc and Fn keys? By the way, I visited an Apple store and played with the new 15" MBP. It's even worse than I thought. I downloaded the latest Gnu Emacs, and the Fn virtual keys were not available. And in no case did I see the Esc and Fn virtual keys present at the same time. Also ridiculous is the fac…
>If you need access to function keys (F1–F12), hold down the Function (fn) key at the bottom-left of your keyboard. Touch Bar changes to show the function buttons for you to select, and then it returns to its previous state when you release the Function key. From https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204436 .
Which is exactly how it works by default on old MacBook pros, since almost all the function keys were overwritten to control functions by default.
Re: A Programmer Evaluates the MacBook Pro (Touch Bar)
#9How does a programmer evaluate this machine without discussing at least one of vi and emacs, and the absence of real Esc and Fn keys? By the way, I visited an Apple store and played with the new 15" MBP. It's even worse than I thought. I downloaded the latest Gnu Emacs, and the Fn virtual keys were not available. And in no case did I see the Esc and Fn virtual keys present at the same time. Also ridiculous is the fac…
>>How does a programmer evaluate this machine without discussing at least one of vi and emacs, and the absence of real Esc and Fn keys? What percentage of programmers use vi or emacs?
Use or say they use? vi and emacs are alot like some programming books people say they have read to show they are a programmer because they think that it what it means. My guess, < 10% with all the IDEs and text editors out there today. On servers or VMs they are common, in actually coding, probably overstated.
Re: A Programmer Evaluates the MacBook Pro (Touch Bar)
#10The person who reviewed this may have been a programmer, but the review doesn't seem to be in context of programming. I care about how well I can work on it, not now well it works with remotes. > The MacBook Pro is more an evolutionary than a revolutionary upgrade over my MacBook Air. That seems to sum up this review. The macbook pro is a successor to the air, not the old macbook pro.
So a MacBook Pro is a "Pro" device because it has lots of different ports ?
That seems illogical.