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How Google Is Challenging AWS

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Re: How Google Is Challenging AWS

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I disagree with the central thesis of this article that Google is a product company rather than a platform company. I think that's wrong because throughout its history Google has asked itself "what if we had this?" first, and built the products around that later. Essentially the company believes that products will naturally emerge if you hire tens of thousands of engineers and deploy an unholy number of computers. I said this before on this site: Google's core product is dirt-cheap computing. Everything else follows from that.

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I disagree with the central thesis of this article that Google is a product company rather than a platform company. I think that's wrong because throughout its history Google has asked itself "what if we had this?" first, and built the products around that later. Essentially the company believes that products will naturally emerge if you hire tens of thousands of engineers and deploy an unholy number of computers. I…

Is company's business model based on what they use to create their Widgets or what Widgets they sell (and how)? I agree its hard to paint Google solely as a products company, but its also more than the sum of dirt-cheap computing.

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What's good for the goose is good for the gander. How about criminal penalties for false arrest due to bugs?

To be serious this is a catastrophic failure. We can not deprive people of there freedom because of a glitch. This system doesn't have fail safes.

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post #5

I want to try out Google, but they need to make it easier to try it out. I have petabytes of data in S3 that I would need to move first (at least some of it).

You can try "Cloud Storage Transfer":

`Transfer data to your Cloud Storage buckets from Amazon Simple Storage Service (S3), HTTP/HTTPS servers or other buckets. You can schedule once-off or daily transfers, and you can filter files based on name prefix and when they were changed.`

https://cloud.google.com/storage/transfer/

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> Amazon’s AWS strategy sprang from the same approach that made the company successful in the first place

I'd argue that Amazon isn't a successful company, they are a popular company with a few large successes surrounded by decaying and decrepit failures that won't die. But then again I'm biased.

As far as Amazon's AWS strategy, I can't comment (I worked in the retail business side). But I can comment on a relatively small aspect of management that I witnessed. At one point in time I had a very strong need for PostGIS, and I lamented on an internal email list about AWS not having a Postgres version of RDS. I received an email directly from Raju Gulabani, VP of databases in AWS. He scheduled an appointment with me, him, and two product managers. He asked me pointed questions about why I wanted Postgres over the other options, how I would be using it, what extensions I wanted, and what features were important to me. He thanked me for my time, and less than a year later it was released to the public.

In the retail business side, I never had more than 2 minutes at a time with someone at the director level, and not once had I spoken to someone at the VP level. Literally zero communication from the bottom up, everything was top down. Whether AWS had already been working on it or not I don't know, but they definitely took the time to hear my case, and when it was released it was almost perfectly as I had asked for. And that, IMO is waaaay more important than anything regarding the size of a team or whatever the fluff pieces have attributed.

Re: How Google Is Challenging AWS

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post #5

I want to try out Google, but they need to make it easier to try it out. I have petabytes of data in S3 that I would need to move first (at least some of it).

You can try "Cloud Storage Transfer": `Transfer data to your Cloud Storage buckets from Amazon Simple Storage Service (S3), HTTP/HTTPS servers or other buckets. You can schedule once-off or daily transfers, and you can filter files based on name prefix and when they were changed.` https://cloud.google.com/storage/transfer/

It would be nice if they managed the transfer themselves via AWS Snowball. Sure, they would have upfront costs, but based on what I spend on AWS monthly, it's probably worth it to them.

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What's good for the goose is good for the gander. How about criminal penalties for false arrest due to bugs? To be serious this is a catastrophic failure. We can not deprive people of there freedom because of a glitch. This system doesn't have fail safes.

You must've replied to the wrong article, this one is not the one about the California court's new computer system.
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