Mail-in-a-Box – one-click, easy-to-deploy email server
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Re: Mail-in-a-Box – one-click, easy-to-deploy email server
#2I setup my own mail server last year and shortly gave up on the idea. Setting the server up isn't the problem. The problem is keeping your IP off of all the major blacklists.
I wasn't even sending out mass emails and 30%+ of my email would never be delivered. I had to constantly check to see if my IP addresses were on the various spam lists (and fight to get my IPs off) and I just got tired of it.
Companies like Google have entrenched themselves in many things like email and are slowly becoming the only option out there. A large amount of email addresses are @gmail.com or run through one of their servers and they ultimately control whether the recipient receives/sees your email.
The 'promotions' tab in gmail also made things worse for many small businesses. Google doesn't want you competing for their advertising space and pushes any emails it deems a 'promotion' off to the side, so users don't actually see it. I'm not even talking about actual spam emails here, but emails users knowingly signup for and are expecting.
Many people don't realize just how much a handful of companies controls the Internet and your ability to make a living online.
Re: Mail-in-a-Box – one-click, easy-to-deploy email server
#3I've been running MiaB for about 6-7 months now. It's one of those things that 'just works', and with 'just works' I mean:
* Well configured, secure email server * Ease of adding/removing domains, aliases, catch-alls and user accounts * Ease of using email, either with the ready-to-go Roundcube webmail or any IMAP/POP client * Batteries included: DNS is included, DKIM, SPF, you name it. DNSSec * Want to host a static HTML site? MiaB's got you covered. * Yes, that included Let's Encrypt SSL certs * Awesome status page to check: version updates, misconfiguration, system health, and for each domain: DNSSEC, nameservers, DNS, TLS/SSL, blacklisting, etc. * Open source! Huzzah!
If you're serious about moving away from Google or any other corporate mailprovider is feasible, take a look at Mail in a Box.
Re: Mail-in-a-Box – one-click, easy-to-deploy email server
#4This is going to make spammers so happy.
Re: Mail-in-a-Box – one-click, easy-to-deploy email server
#5I setup my own mail server last year and shortly gave up on the idea. Setting the server up isn't the problem. The problem is keeping your IP off of all the major blacklists. I wasn't even sending out mass emails and 30%+ of my email would never be delivered. I had to constantly check to see if my IP addresses were on the various spam lists (and fight to get my IPs off) and I just got tired of it. Companies like Goog…
That's why I've left gmail years ago. I do not want to support this kind of "business model".
I also do not want to invest the time to maintain my own email server. Imho there are good alternative solutions provided by companies such as protonmail.com or mailbox.org just to name two I have personally experience with.
As with everything it is mostly about overcoming your personal comfort zone and start to act. Good luck.
Re: Mail-in-a-Box – one-click, easy-to-deploy email server
#6This is going to make spammers so happy.
Why?
Re: Mail-in-a-Box – one-click, easy-to-deploy email server
#7I setup my own mail server last year and shortly gave up on the idea. Setting the server up isn't the problem. The problem is keeping your IP off of all the major blacklists. I wasn't even sending out mass emails and 30%+ of my email would never be delivered. I had to constantly check to see if my IP addresses were on the various spam lists (and fight to get my IPs off) and I just got tired of it. Companies like Goog…
I've been running a postfix for years (since 2008ish) and never once checked or worried about blacklists. My 3 users haven't reported any problems at all.
Re: Mail-in-a-Box – one-click, easy-to-deploy email server
#8I setup my own mail server last year and shortly gave up on the idea. Setting the server up isn't the problem. The problem is keeping your IP off of all the major blacklists. I wasn't even sending out mass emails and 30%+ of my email would never be delivered. I had to constantly check to see if my IP addresses were on the various spam lists (and fight to get my IPs off) and I just got tired of it. Companies like Goog…
That's why I've left gmail years ago. I do not want to support this kind of "business model". I also do not want to invest the time to maintain my own email server. Imho there are good alternative solutions provided by companies such as protonmail.com or mailbox.org just to name two I have personally experience with. As with everything it is mostly about overcoming your personal comfort zone and start to act. Good lu…
It's not about being outside your 'comfort zone'. I've been running complex setups for years and am perfectly comfortable getting my hands dirty.
It's about the time and effort it takes to constantly fight the blacklists and the downtime for my business.
Re: Mail-in-a-Box – one-click, easy-to-deploy email server
#9I setup my own mail server last year and shortly gave up on the idea. Setting the server up isn't the problem. The problem is keeping your IP off of all the major blacklists. I wasn't even sending out mass emails and 30%+ of my email would never be delivered. I had to constantly check to see if my IP addresses were on the various spam lists (and fight to get my IPs off) and I just got tired of it. Companies like Goog…
There's still a middle ground available. You can move your emails to a smaller but serious commercial email provider you actually pay for. I moved to Zoho for example (I pay them directly and use own domain), but there's still loads of others available.
I don't get the complaint about the promotion tab though. I had the emails auto-labelled before more or less as private / adverts / notifications / mailing lists. This maps pretty well to Primary / Promotions / Updates / Forums. Anything that ends up in Social I just unsubscribe from. I'm pretty happy with their autoclassifiers. They don't make me not see emails.
Re: Mail-in-a-Box – one-click, easy-to-deploy email server
#10This is going to make spammers so happy.
Why?
Gmail and other really big providers are in a unique position for spam filtering. They have so many users that they get a continuously trained filter pretty much for free. They can instantly classify never-seen-before kind of spam in minutes because someone gets push notification on their phone and clicks "this is spam".
Nobody with purely-technical solution to this problem can be better in practice. (although we're pretty close) This means you're more likely to get actual spam in your custom deployment.