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Bye Bye Emojis: Emacs Hates MacOS

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Re: Bye Bye Emojis: Emacs Hates MacOS

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Post by beefsack »

It's easy to see this is but one side to the story from the level of emotion in the blog post. Does anyone have more information regarding the decision itself?

The post also misses the second half of the paragraph, which suggests a method to get emoji working again:

  If some symbols, such as emoji, do not display, we suggest to install
  an appropriate font, such as Symbola; then they will be displayed,
  albeit without the color effects.

Re: Bye Bye Emojis: Emacs Hates MacOS

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Post by vilhelm_s »

And several other Mac features were stopped before they made it into the official release. This is Richard Stallman's policy: "GNU Emacs should never offer people a practical reason to use some other system instead of GNU. Therefore, when someone implements a useful new feature but only for a non-GNU system, we do not accept it that form."

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-12/msg01...

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-12/msg01...

Re: Bye Bye Emojis: Emacs Hates MacOS

#8

Post by noobermin »

no_protocol wrote: post #4

Can you just recompile it with that feature enabled?

Probably not. I won't be surprised if someone doesn't add a patch though. From NEWS:

   On the OS X Cocoa ("Nextstep") port, multicolor font (such as color
   emoji) display is disabled.  This feature was accidentally added when
   Emacs 24.4 included the new Core Text based font backend code that was
   originally implemented for a non-mainline port.  This will be enabled
   again once it is also implemented in Emacs on free operating systems.
   If some symbols, such as emoji, do not display, we suggest to install
   an appropriate font, such as Symbola; then they will be displayed,
   albeit without the color effects.
IMO: this is the least important thing of this week to me. It certainly doesn't deserve the "Emacs Hate MacOS" subtitle.

Re: Bye Bye Emojis: Emacs Hates MacOS

#9

Post by MBCook »

beefsack wrote: post #3

It's easy to see this is but one side to the story from the level of emotion in the blog post. Does anyone have more information regarding the decision itself? The post also misses the second half of the paragraph, which suggests a method to get emoji working again: If some symbols, such as emoji, do not display, we suggest to install an appropriate font, such as Symbola; then they will be displayed, albeit without t…

So instead of using the native font rendering on OS X which they had actually done, they suggest installing a secondary font which doesn't work as well to fix the problem they created by disabling the working font rendering?

Yeah. I'm sure everyone's happy with that answer.

Re: Bye Bye Emojis: Emacs Hates MacOS

#10

Post by MBCook »

noobermin wrote: post #8
no_protocol wrote: post #4

Can you just recompile it with that feature enabled?

Probably not. I won't be surprised if someone doesn't add a patch though. From NEWS: On the OS X Cocoa ("Nextstep") port, multicolor font (such as color emoji) display is disabled. This feature was accidentally added when Emacs 24.4 included the new Core Text based font backend code that was originally implemented for a non-mainline port. This will be enabled again once it is also implemented in Emacs on free operati…

If you've been shipping a feature for two years it's a little too late to pull it and say "oops we didn't mean to give you that yet".
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