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How it feels to learn JavaScript in 2016

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Re: How it feels to learn JavaScript in 2016

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I'm a web dev, been doing this 11 years. But i totally feel past it, granted i code less and less nowadays so i havent kept up with new technologies.

I've hired people that are much better at web dev than me and let them accomplish a task with pretty much whatever tech they want to use, because i believe you shouldn't constrict a developer if you dont have to. Even for a simple app that it'd take me 20 - 30 hours for me to create in basic jQuery, bootstrap and simple PHP/MySQL, the tendency is to pull in Angular, Laravel, gulp or grunt, composer dependencies and a whole host of code for doing something really simple. It ends up becoming a frigging nightmare to maintain and deploy, i just want to do a git pull and thats it deployed, but instead i've gotta do artisan commands, migrations, grunt commands etc etc etc.

Anyway, i tell myself that what their doing is a better way of doing things and i'm just someone with outdated knowledge, because when i do it, i use basic tech and accomplish the same task in less time and with WAAAY less lines of code. While its maybe not the best practices, its simple.

I still feel like a bad coder because i'm not doing it their way. :(

Re: How it feels to learn JavaScript in 2016

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post #7

The worst is, if you don't keep up with this, good luck getting a web job five years from now, you'll be the equivalent of a Cobol programmer. Can't get off the train.

There's still quite a lot of people doing Angular 1.x though, so at least the train isn't that fast.

I sorta agree with you. I personally like JS and really like Node. Node can actually be pretty simple and fun to mess around with and experiment. I know HN likes to hate on it, but I have fun with it.

Frontend apps always end up seeming like a mess to me especially when suing the latest "best practices" for "maintainability" (ironic as most web apps are abandoned after a couple of years). Unfortunately JS being the only language I'm productive in sorta means I'll be doing some sort of frontend for a while.

Re: How it feels to learn JavaScript in 2016

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Occasionally designers seem to seek credit merely for possessing a new technology, rather than using it to make better designs. Computers and their affiliated apparatus can do powerful things graphically, in part by turning out the hundreds of plots necessary for good data analysis. But at least a few computer graphics only evoke the response "Isn’t it remarkable that the computer can be programmed to draw like that?" instead of "My, what interesting data".

- Edward Tufte

Re: How it feels to learn JavaScript in 2016

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I'm a web dev, been doing this 11 years. But i totally feel past it, granted i code less and less nowadays so i havent kept up with new technologies. I've hired people that are much better at web dev than me and let them accomplish a task with pretty much whatever tech they want to use, because i believe you shouldn't constrict a developer if you dont have to. Even for a simple app that it'd take me 20 - 30 hours for…

> I still feel like a bad coder because i'm not doing it their way. :(

Well, in some ways yes. But experience has a value

Today people use an Arduino to flash a led, "in my time" it could be done with 2 transistors (you can do it with one + one "funny" component I guess - like a transformer)

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