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TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different name, say EU ministers

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Re: TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different name, say EU ministers

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Post by krylon »

> European Union ministers today admitted that a giant EU-US trade deal is dead in its current form, with drastic change needed to salvage any hope of a deal going ahead.

The devil, as always, is in the fine print - a cynic might read that to mean "TTIP has gotten such a bad reputation we would rather wait a few more years so the public forgets all about it, then try again."

In fact, I am tempted to quote Lovecraft here, except that a few years hardly count as "eternal".

Re: TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different name, say EU ministers

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Post by walterbell »

Related analysis of TiSA, Sep 20, https://edri.org/tisa-leaks-set-alarm-bells-ringing/

"Despite the rumours and assertions by several Member States that TTIP is dead, the fight for safeguarding citizens’ rights and freedoms via so-called “trade agreements” is far from over ... Greenpeace Netherlands has released another batch of crucial and worrying documents ... EU privacy and data protection standards are endangered and diminished in 6 out of the 9 analysed documents ... Exceptions for “essential security interests” are a Damocles sword over every single part of the agreement ... TiSA can limit the access and transfer of software source code."

Re: TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different name, say EU ministers

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Post by aerique »

krylon wrote: post #3

> European Union ministers today admitted that a giant EU-US trade deal is dead in its current form , with drastic change needed to salvage any hope of a deal going ahead. The devil, as always, is in the fine print - a cynic might read that to mean "TTIP has gotten such a bad reputation we would rather wait a few more years so the public forgets all about it, then try again." In fact, I am tempted to quote Lovecraft…

The name escapes me for a moment but they're already working on a new secret deal. (Since 2012, so that's why they're so easily letting go of TTIP.)

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Post by jpfr »

krylon wrote: post #3

> European Union ministers today admitted that a giant EU-US trade deal is dead in its current form , with drastic change needed to salvage any hope of a deal going ahead. The devil, as always, is in the fine print - a cynic might read that to mean "TTIP has gotten such a bad reputation we would rather wait a few more years so the public forgets all about it, then try again." In fact, I am tempted to quote Lovecraft…

An optimist might read that to mean "Europeans found out that trade deals can be a lot better than what TTIP offered. Such as CETA which the EU is about to close with Canada".

Re: TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different name, say EU ministers

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Post by walterbell »

sztwiorok wrote: post #7

can someone summarize ttip in 3 short points? I am sure that most people like me do not have a clue about what is ttip

5-min video on the major trade agreements and ISDS, https://youtube.com/watch?v=M4-mlGRPmkU

Re: TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different name, say EU ministers

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Post by petre »

krylon wrote: post #3

> European Union ministers today admitted that a giant EU-US trade deal is dead in its current form , with drastic change needed to salvage any hope of a deal going ahead. The devil, as always, is in the fine print - a cynic might read that to mean "TTIP has gotten such a bad reputation we would rather wait a few more years so the public forgets all about it, then try again." In fact, I am tempted to quote Lovecraft…

They will just change the name to something else, change a few words and voila, a new secret trade agreement.
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