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Music theory for nerds

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Re: Music theory for nerds

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I love pieces like this that explore the underpinnings of why we experience music the way we do. I'm a self-taught guitar player and its only now, in my 50's with the kids more or less grown and a lot more time, that I have started to dig in and understand what I've been playing for two decades. Good stuff. Thanks for the post.

Re: Music theory for nerds

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if you were hoping for a nerdy treatise on musical rhythm, harmony, form, cadences, sequences and motifs, and evolution from baroque to classical to romantic to modern... well this is not it.

edit: just a comment about the temperament- before the octave was equally tempered intervals were rational fractions of the root. after the equal temperament was developed instruments could go across different keys without sounding too dissonant. the well tempered clavier was a series of preludes and fugues that JSB wrote for the equally tempered scale that goes across all the keys on the same instrument (the prelude in c major which is the very first piece in the collection is the famous one in Forrest Gump). but sometimes you want to return to the pure temperament - like if a passage focuses on a particular key for a while - and in the brass and wind instruments it is easy to squeeze the embouchure a little bit to slightly tweak the tuning of a particular note.

Re: Music theory for nerds

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This has got to be some of the worst jargon and notation for anything, ever.

Indeed. I'm a musician, and something non-musicians often ask (especially techies, it seems) is why we use such an archaic notation system.

The reason is simply that a certain number of musicians have developed the skill of sight reading which is the ability to perform a composition directly from a written sheet, with little or no rehearsal. Those players, myself included, can't quite explain how we do it, and aren't going to learn a new notation system.

Re: Music theory for nerds

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>I suppose it’s possible to change the sound of an entire piece of music just by changing the key signature, but does anyone actually do that?

>How would that work for music that also uses notes outside the scale? These seem more like questions of composition, which I definitely don’t know anything about.

From wikipedia:

Although transpositions are usually written out, musicians are occasionally asked to transpose music "at sight", that is, to read the music in one key while playing in another. Musicians who play transposing instruments sometimes have to do this (for example when encountering an unusual transposition, such as clarinet in C), as well as singers' accompanists, since singers sometimes request a different key than the one printed in the music to better fit their vocal range (although many, but not all, songs are printed in editions for high, medium, and low voice).

There are three basic techniques for teaching sight transposition: interval, clef, and numbers ...

[*] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposition_(music)#Sight_tr...

Re: Music theory for nerds

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post #4

This has got to be some of the worst jargon and notation for anything, ever. Indeed. I'm a musician, and something non-musicians often ask (especially techies, it seems) is why we use such an archaic notation system. The reason is simply that a certain number of musicians have developed the skill of sight reading which is the ability to perform a composition directly from a written sheet, with little or no rehearsal.…

Sounds like vim!

Re: Music theory for nerds

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TLDR: a person who knows nothing about music or music theory gripes about music and music theory. Admittedly knows nothing, right off the bat and several times throughout the text. How can you declare something to be "terrible", "the worst notation for anything ever", and so forth if you admittedly know nothing of the subject? I know nothing about databases, would reading the Wikipedia page on NoSQL entitle me to declare it "absolute garbage"? o.O

Re: Music theory for nerds

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post #3

if you were hoping for a nerdy treatise on musical rhythm, harmony, form, cadences, sequences and motifs, and evolution from baroque to classical to romantic to modern... well this is not it. edit: just a comment about the temperament- before the octave was equally tempered intervals were rational fractions of the root. after the equal temperament was developed instruments could go across different keys without sound…

I would love something like that. Any pointer?

Re: Music theory for nerds

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post #4

This has got to be some of the worst jargon and notation for anything, ever. Indeed. I'm a musician, and something non-musicians often ask (especially techies, it seems) is why we use such an archaic notation system. The reason is simply that a certain number of musicians have developed the skill of sight reading which is the ability to perform a composition directly from a written sheet, with little or no rehearsal.…

>why we use such an archaic notation system.

The answer is, because it works, and nobody has managed to propose a better one.

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