How history forgot the black women behind Nasa’s space race
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How history forgot the black women behind Nasa’s space race
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Re: How history forgot the black women behind Nasa’s space race
#2Most people that helped nasa with the space race have been forgotten.
to imply that these women should not have been forgotten because of their race and gender seems silly to me. we don't generally remember people because of their race or their gender, we remember people primarily for unique/influential/pivotal actions.
that said the article was still good, and not really all that about the title.
Re: How history forgot the black women behind Nasa’s space race
#3Most people that helped nasa with the space race have been forgotten. to imply that these women should not have been forgotten because of their race and gender seems silly to me. we don't generally remember people because of their race or their gender, we remember people primarily for unique/influential/pivotal actions. that said the article was still good, and not really all that about the title.
When certain media outlets in the U.S. (Fox News, Ann Coulter, Clint Eastwood, etc.) represent people behind "heroic" feats in the past (space race, WWII battles, capture of Saddam Hussein, Yeshua the Christ, Egyptians in the Old Testament), 100% of the people doing the heroism are represented as white (as in Scandinavian white). This context and history explains why there is an effort to correct the imbalance of representation. It is indeed needed and necessary to correct the imbalance. IMHO.
Re: How history forgot the black women behind Nasa’s space race
#4Most people that helped nasa with the space race have been forgotten. to imply that these women should not have been forgotten because of their race and gender seems silly to me. we don't generally remember people because of their race or their gender, we remember people primarily for unique/influential/pivotal actions. that said the article was still good, and not really all that about the title.
No.
We emphasise the actions of white men as being more important those of other groups. We write out of history the acts and perspectives and contributions that other groups have made and somehow manage to convince ourselves that we are not biased.
You describe a meritocracy that we aspire to and yet is almost completely detached from reality.
Re: How history forgot the black women behind Nasa’s space race
#5Watch the trailer the article is promoting. It's inspiring, and about time to add their stories to those of the Right Stuff or Apollo 13. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK8xHq6dfAo
Re: How history forgot the black women behind Nasa’s space race
#6Most people that helped nasa with the space race have been forgotten. to imply that these women should not have been forgotten because of their race and gender seems silly to me. we don't generally remember people because of their race or their gender, we remember people primarily for unique/influential/pivotal actions. that said the article was still good, and not really all that about the title.
No. We emphasise the actions of white men as being more important those of other groups. We write out of history the acts and perspectives and contributions that other groups have made and somehow manage to convince ourselves that we are not biased. You describe a meritocracy that we aspire to and yet is almost completely detached from reality.
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Re: How history forgot the black women behind Nasa’s space race
#7Most people that helped nasa with the space race have been forgotten. to imply that these women should not have been forgotten because of their race and gender seems silly to me. we don't generally remember people because of their race or their gender, we remember people primarily for unique/influential/pivotal actions. that said the article was still good, and not really all that about the title.
>to imply that these women should not have been forgotten because of their race and gender seems silly to me. we don't generally remember people because of their race or their gender, we remember people primarily for unique/influential/pivotal actions.
That is not what science and history tell us. It may be what folks want to believe, especially folks who like to think they live in a meritocracy. Both history and science show that men get more credit than women, for example. Professors get higher ratings from students, job applicants get more callbacks and higher offers, researchers get more papers accepted by journals, etc. All have been the subject of recent studies showing that, a given resume, paper, or performance will get better outcomes if it's attached to a male name rather than female.
Re: How history forgot the black women behind Nasa’s space race
#8Most people that helped nasa with the space race have been forgotten. to imply that these women should not have been forgotten because of their race and gender seems silly to me. we don't generally remember people because of their race or their gender, we remember people primarily for unique/influential/pivotal actions. that said the article was still good, and not really all that about the title.
I wish the history forgets white men once in a while.. .so far, it never happened
Re: How history forgot the black women behind Nasa’s space race
#9Most people that helped nasa with the space race have been forgotten. to imply that these women should not have been forgotten because of their race and gender seems silly to me. we don't generally remember people because of their race or their gender, we remember people primarily for unique/influential/pivotal actions. that said the article was still good, and not really all that about the title.
"Most people that helped nasa with the space race have been forgotten. to imply that ^these women^ should not have been forgotten because of their ^race^ and ^gender^ seems silly to me. "
Motherhood statement. Let me guess: male, white, middle class and educated? Women of colour experience a different world to you.
I lived through the late stage of Apollo and the space race and followed it closely as a kid and never read or saw images of scientists, technicians other than the stereo-typical short white sleeve engineer with glasses. This is a book and film I'll be looking out for.
Re: How history forgot the black women behind Nasa’s space race
#10Most people that helped nasa with the space race have been forgotten. to imply that these women should not have been forgotten because of their race and gender seems silly to me. we don't generally remember people because of their race or their gender, we remember people primarily for unique/influential/pivotal actions. that said the article was still good, and not really all that about the title.
"Most people that helped nasa with the space race have been forgotten. to imply that ^these women^ should not have been forgotten because of their ^race^ and ^gender^ seems silly to me. " Motherhood statement. Let me guess: male, white, middle class and educated? Women of colour experience a different world to you. I lived through the late stage of Apollo and the space race and followed it closely as a kid and never…
> Let me guess: male, white, middle class and educated?
Now that's bigoted. What should he do, "check his privileges" ?