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The king of smokers

thomas-morris.uk

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Re: The king of smokers

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I wonder how much the current 'marijuana is good for you' attitude resembles the 'smoking is good for you' attitude in the past?

NB: I think all drugs should be legalised so this isn't an anti-drugs post.

Re: The king of smokers

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I wonder how much the current 'marijuana is good for you' attitude resembles the 'smoking is good for you' attitude in the past? NB: I think all drugs should be legalised so this isn't an anti-drugs post.

Don't most of the people espousing that attitude acknowledge that the smoking part has negative consequences? Hence vaping and edibles and such?

Re: The king of smokers

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I wonder how much the current 'marijuana is good for you' attitude resembles the 'smoking is good for you' attitude in the past? NB: I think all drugs should be legalised so this isn't an anti-drugs post.

Don't most of the people espousing that attitude acknowledge that the smoking part has negative consequences? Hence vaping and edibles and such?

There have been studies in the past few years showing that the health risk from smoking perhaps isn't as bad as was commonly believed. Here's one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25521349

Re: The king of smokers

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I wonder how much the current 'marijuana is good for you' attitude resembles the 'smoking is good for you' attitude in the past? NB: I think all drugs should be legalised so this isn't an anti-drugs post.

Don't most of the people espousing that attitude acknowledge that the smoking part has negative consequences? Hence vaping and edibles and such?

I actually expanded upon my comment to cover that and it didn't post. Smoking it we can all agree isn't good for our lungs. However I wonder about the long term mental impact on regular users. The only ones I've known (and we're talking a couple of people so not a big sample) regularly lose focus and zone out when I talked to them (and they were sober). We look at cigarettes and alcohol as indulgences. We know they cause damage so we make a choice to accept that or enjoy them occasionally. Marijuana talk tends to be focussed around health benefits still and at one time this was the same for alcohol and cigarettes. For example we don't look at daily marijuana users the same way we would alcohol users.

Re: The king of smokers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't most of the people espousing that attitude acknowledge that the smoking part has negative consequences? Hence vaping and edibles and such?

I actually expanded upon my comment to cover that and it didn't post. Smoking it we can all agree isn't good for our lungs. However I wonder about the long term mental impact on regular users. The only ones I've known (and we're talking a couple of people so not a big sample) regularly lose focus and zone out when I talked to them (and they were sober). We look at cigarettes and alcohol as indulgences. We know they c…

I've had the same observation, that the people I know who smoke pot always seem to have that typical dunceness about them. But then I've wondered if the cause and effect is reversed -- maybe it is people who already have these cognitive attributes are more likely to be predisposed to smoking pot?

Re: The king of smokers

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I wonder how much the current 'marijuana is good for you' attitude resembles the 'smoking is good for you' attitude in the past? NB: I think all drugs should be legalised so this isn't an anti-drugs post.

Don't most of the people espousing that attitude acknowledge that the smoking part has negative consequences? Hence vaping and edibles and such?

I've witnessed countless pro-legalisation fundamentalists that absolutely refuse to believe smoking cannabis has any negative effect whatsoever, phsyically or mentally.

As someone who smoked it heavily for around 10 years (don't anymore) I know it can have negative effects. I witnessed them in myself and in the people around me at the time.

I'm pro-legalisation myself, but can't help roll my eyes at these 'potheads' that give the case for legalisation a bad name.

Re: The king of smokers

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually expanded upon my comment to cover that and it didn't post. Smoking it we can all agree isn't good for our lungs. However I wonder about the long term mental impact on regular users. The only ones I've known (and we're talking a couple of people so not a big sample) regularly lose focus and zone out when I talked to them (and they were sober). We look at cigarettes and alcohol as indulgences. We know they c…

I've had the same observation, that the people I know who smoke pot always seem to have that typical dunceness about them. But then I've wondered if the cause and effect is reversed -- maybe it is people who already have these cognitive attributes are more likely to be predisposed to smoking pot?

Anecdotally, this slowness/lethargy/lack of focus is one of the two reasons I quit smoking weed years ago.

The other reason being the gradually mounting paranoia eventually culminating in what I can only describe as a paranoid anxiety attack.

The day that happened I quit.

I'm pro-legalisation but I abused it and ruined it for myself. Many others do too, all the while espousing its complete lack of drawbacks, which I find irritating.

Re: The king of smokers

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't most of the people espousing that attitude acknowledge that the smoking part has negative consequences? Hence vaping and edibles and such?

There have been studies in the past few years showing that the health risk from smoking perhaps isn't as bad as was commonly believed. Here's one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25521349

The problem in the weed health impact debate is that you'll likely find just as many studies showing higher risks as those showing lesser risks.
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