The LHC “nightmare scenario” has come true

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Post by degio » Tue, Aug 09, 2016, 9:08 AM UTC

The LHC “nightmare scenario” has come true
backreaction.blogspot.com

Re: The LHC “nightmare scenario” has come true

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Post by andrelaszlo » Tue, Aug 09, 2016, 9:35 AM UTC

Discussion from a couple of days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12238197

Re: The LHC “nightmare scenario” has come true

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Post by TickleSteve » Tue, Aug 09, 2016, 9:36 AM UTC

Isn't this really the "dream" scenario??

The current state is that we have evidence that the current theories are not correct which leaves a gap for new theories to fill.

Sounds like an exciting area to be working in right now if you ask me (unfortunately, I'm not!).

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Post by nbevans » Tue, Aug 09, 2016, 9:39 AM UTC

There are no nightmares in physics and science. There is only further intrigue.

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Post by return0 » Tue, Aug 09, 2016, 9:39 AM UTC

> We’ve maneuvered ourselves into a dead end by relying on aesthetic guidance to decide which experiments are the most promising.

What other alternatives are there?

Also, i wonder , now that LHC has become "boring" , what options are there for repurposing it?

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Post by GolDDranks » Tue, Aug 09, 2016, 9:42 AM UTC

TickleSteve wrote: post #3

Isn't this really the "dream" scenario?? The current state is that we have evidence that the current theories are not correct which leaves a gap for new theories to fill. Sounds like an exciting area to be working in right now if you ask me (unfortunately, I'm not!).

We know that the current theories aren't correct anyway. Or more accurately, they are correct only in low-energy conditions, and can't say anything about high-energy conditions.

This is "nightmare scenario" because we knew that the theories aren't correct, but we hoped for some results that would guide and inspire new theories. Either way we know that we aren't done yet, but the current state is like being in a featureless void, unable to know where to direct one's efforts.

Or so I have heard.

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Post by matt4077 » Tue, Aug 09, 2016, 9:47 AM UTC

I was a bit scared considering some people earnestly feared the LHC could create a black hole.

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Post by gaius » Tue, Aug 09, 2016, 9:49 AM UTC

TickleSteve wrote: post #3

Isn't this really the "dream" scenario?? The current state is that we have evidence that the current theories are not correct which leaves a gap for new theories to fill. Sounds like an exciting area to be working in right now if you ask me (unfortunately, I'm not!).

It's a nightmare because the last 50 years of science have led to a dead end, with no clue as to the next path to take.

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Post by codeulike » Tue, Aug 09, 2016, 9:49 AM UTC

Seeing this headline makes me think a black hole has been created and we're all going to die. Thankfully, this is not the case.

edit: LHC webcams, interesting: http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

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Post by mrweasel » Tue, Aug 09, 2016, 9:53 AM UTC

Wasn't the nightmare scenario that the LHC would create a black hole that would swallow the entire solar system?

The case of no new physics "just" mean that they'll have to start looking else where. Their job just got a little harder, and while I can appreciate how annoying that can be, it's hardly a nightmare.