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Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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I'm still so undecided whether to upgrade from Windows 7 to 10. On the one hand a free upgrade to the latest OS is so very tempting, but then I read about how there is no privacy, people calling the installation malware, and the ugly flat UI look. Not to mention does it push that basic tiles screen from Windows 8 in your face? The one that is meant for a tablet/phone, and has no place on a desktop?

I wonder if I'm going to miss out on new games that are DirectX 12 only, which is Windows 10 only. I see on Steam [1] that 43% of people use Windows 10 now. Could this be a problem soon?

So many pros and cons to upgrading, I can't believe I even have to think about this stuff. Very unhappy with Microsoft about it all in all, who usually I don't have a problem with.

[1] http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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I find it a bit ironic that after their very aggressive forced update practices [1][2], they're now gonna charge people for it.

[1] http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-pays-woman-10000-over-for...

[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4mcdon/i_live_i...

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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post #3

I'm still so undecided whether to upgrade from Windows 7 to 10. On the one hand a free upgrade to the latest OS is so very tempting, but then I read about how there is no privacy, people calling the installation malware, and the ugly flat UI look. Not to mention does it push that basic tiles screen from Windows 8 in your face? The one that is meant for a tablet/phone, and has no place on a desktop? I wonder if I'm go…

I think you may have a few mis-conceptions about windows 10...

1) no privacy... not really. Windows (like several other OS' and applications) will, by default, send data to the cloud for processing and collect telemetry data about the user. I really wish they had made it easier to opt out of (and indeed not made the privacy invasive stuff the default) but I wouldn't say that equates to "no privacy". Also with a bit of effort you can turn that stuff off.

2) People calling it malware... well that's a subjective description, not sure I see the basis for it.

3) Ugly flat UI.. Again that's a matter of taste I guess. Personally I quite like Windows 10's new look

4) Nope the windows 8 full start screen is gone in 10 in desktop mode.

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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post #3

I'm still so undecided whether to upgrade from Windows 7 to 10. On the one hand a free upgrade to the latest OS is so very tempting, but then I read about how there is no privacy, people calling the installation malware, and the ugly flat UI look. Not to mention does it push that basic tiles screen from Windows 8 in your face? The one that is meant for a tablet/phone, and has no place on a desktop? I wonder if I'm go…

You are already missing out from games released on the windows store. Most from microsoft studios. Gears of War 4 coming out for Windows 10 only

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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    To the last, I grapple with thee; 
    From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; 
    For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.
I will either continue using Windows 8, or replace my current system with Linux entirely. If I didn't need to use VS and some Adobe software, I would already have gotten rid of Windows.

But, even though I would probably like a lot of what Windows 10 has to offer, I will never, ever voluntarily upgrade to 10. I'll buy a new laptop with 10 installed, but not upgrade, just because I object to Microsoft's aggressive tactics so much, that I want to make a futile gesture of holding on to my current Windows OS out of sheer irrational spite.

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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post #3

I'm still so undecided whether to upgrade from Windows 7 to 10. On the one hand a free upgrade to the latest OS is so very tempting, but then I read about how there is no privacy, people calling the installation malware, and the ugly flat UI look. Not to mention does it push that basic tiles screen from Windows 8 in your face? The one that is meant for a tablet/phone, and has no place on a desktop? I wonder if I'm go…

I'm going to give you my opinion on this topic but I'm going to preface it with I'm biased. I'm also basing it on the fact that you're already using Windows 7.

Windows 10 is a better experience in my opinion. The search works much better on the machine, they fixed some of the basic tools to manage MS and they have added scaling (which doesn't work well on old winforms apps but it is awesome otherwise).

You're already on windows so the privacy is a big deal anyway, they could just push an update that sends data back to them and make that the default. I mean what's stopping them right? (There may be a legal reason I don't know about.)

Windows 10 allows you to click a bunch of toggles that Microsoft says they are going to respect. If you were on Linux I'd say, ok you don't trust them don't use it, but you are already trusting Microsoft in this regard, so look into what you have to turn off and turn it off.

Cortana is awesome. I actually like using it a lot of times, but that's me and this is 1000% an opinion. I love the voice recognition tools out there.

If you want to stay on windows 7 due to security I'd say take the plunge and go linux. If you aren't upgrading because of the UI, I'd say try it out I really enjoy it. If you want to roll back you can.

If you are going to game in the future or buy a pc in the future you will HAVE to get windows 10. So holding out against windows 10 now but not windows in general just doesn't make sense to me. Eventually windows 7 will stop getting security updates, and you''ll have a really hard time getting anything to run on it. You'll be forced out anyway, and then you'll be paying for it.

Wow that was a REALLY long response, but basically my opinion is upgrade or switch to Linux. Also a lot of game support is moving to Linux so that isn't a terrible option either. I just don't think Win 7 is a long term decision either way.

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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Reasons I would rather be on Windows 7:

- search stopped working after upgrading - twice it has changed my local account to a Microsoft account without my approval (and failed to sync a password change from online) - after upgrading my computer my copy now requires activation and support says I have to buy a copy since my product key was a 7 one before upgrading

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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Reasons I would rather be on Windows 7: - search stopped working after upgrading - twice it has changed my local account to a Microsoft account without my approval (and failed to sync a password change from online) - after upgrading my computer my copy now requires activation and support says I have to buy a copy since my product key was a 7 one before upgrading

I have the opposite problem. WIndows 10 at home and windows 7 at the office. I hate using the Win 7 at work.

I love the new search on win 10. I feel that the windows key is smarter now.

If it did that to me with the product key I'd be pissed. If customer support doesn't fix that I'd consider that a reason to move to linux too. It hasn't happened to me but if it had I'd move.

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