Lisp Flavoured Erlang

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Post by indatawetrust » Mon, Jul 25, 2016, 8:43 AM UTC

Re: Lisp Flavoured Erlang

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Post by amelius » Mon, Jul 25, 2016, 10:56 AM UTC

That cup of coffee in the logo suggests they are compiling to the Java JVM. If true, this makes me wonder why aren't they using Erlang itself as a target?

Re: Lisp Flavoured Erlang

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Post by iamd3vil » Mon, Jul 25, 2016, 11:01 AM UTC

amelius wrote: post #2

That cup of coffee in the logo suggests they are compiling to the Java JVM. If true, this makes me wonder why aren't they using Erlang itself as a target?

They are not compiling to JVM. LFE compiles to BEAM.

Re: Lisp Flavoured Erlang

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Post by indatawetrust » Mon, Jul 25, 2016, 11:10 AM UTC

amelius wrote: post #2

That cup of coffee in the logo suggests they are compiling to the Java JVM. If true, this makes me wonder why aren't they using Erlang itself as a target?

experimental project https://github.com/lfex/jlfe (erlang on the jvm)

Re: Lisp Flavoured Erlang

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Post by eggy » Mon, Jul 25, 2016, 11:38 AM UTC

amelius wrote: post #2

That cup of coffee in the logo suggests they are compiling to the Java JVM. If true, this makes me wonder why aren't they using Erlang itself as a target?

No, it is built right on top of Erlang for seamless integration, and of note is that it was created by Robert Virding, one of the original creators of Erlang along with Joe Armstrong.

LFE macros deliver true homoiconicity to Erlang. It is a Lisp 2, and supports function and macro definitions at the REPL.

I prefer it to Elixir, because I prefer Lisp. Robert has also created a Lua 5.2 written in pure Erlang.

Evidently, Erlang's actors and BEAM VM were influenced by the JVM and Scala, so I guess doing a JVM Erjang was in the cards. [1]

[1] https://www.infoq.com/news/2011/04/erlang-copied-jvm-and-sca...

Re: Lisp Flavoured Erlang

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Post by hellofunk » Mon, Jul 25, 2016, 11:43 AM UTC

amelius wrote: post #2

That cup of coffee in the logo suggests they are compiling to the Java JVM. If true, this makes me wonder why aren't they using Erlang itself as a target?

That logo does not even remotely resemble the Java logo.

There are literally thousands of companies in the world using a bird in their logo, but they are not all the same company/organization/concept.

Re: Lisp Flavoured Erlang

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Post by plug » Mon, Jul 25, 2016, 11:44 AM UTC

eggy wrote: post #5

amelius wrote: post #2

That cup of coffee in the logo suggests they are compiling to the Java JVM. If true, this makes me wonder why aren't they using Erlang itself as a target?

No, it is built right on top of Erlang for seamless integration, and of note is that it was created by Robert Virding, one of the original creators of Erlang along with Joe Armstrong. LFE macros deliver true homoiconicity to Erlang. It is a Lisp 2, and supports function and macro definitions at the REPL. I prefer it to Elixir, because I prefer Lisp. Robert has also created a Lua 5.2 written in pure Erlang. Evidently,…

That article was posted on April 1st 2011...

Re: Lisp Flavoured Erlang

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Post by strmpnk » Mon, Jul 25, 2016, 11:47 AM UTC

plug wrote: post #7

eggy wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it is built right on top of Erlang for seamless integration, and of note is that it was created by Robert Virding, one of the original creators of Erlang along with Joe Armstrong. LFE macros deliver true homoiconicity to Erlang. It is a Lisp 2, and supports function and macro definitions at the REPL. I prefer it to Elixir, because I prefer Lisp. Robert has also created a Lua 5.2 written in pure Erlang. Evidently,…

That article was posted on April 1st 2011...

I was about to mention that was backwards but forgot about that silly April fools joke. That was worth a good laugh this morning.

Re: Lisp Flavoured Erlang

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Post by pessimizer » Mon, Jul 25, 2016, 11:55 AM UTC

eggy wrote: post #5

amelius wrote: post #2

That cup of coffee in the logo suggests they are compiling to the Java JVM. If true, this makes me wonder why aren't they using Erlang itself as a target?

No, it is built right on top of Erlang for seamless integration, and of note is that it was created by Robert Virding, one of the original creators of Erlang along with Joe Armstrong. LFE macros deliver true homoiconicity to Erlang. It is a Lisp 2, and supports function and macro definitions at the REPL. I prefer it to Elixir, because I prefer Lisp. Robert has also created a Lua 5.2 written in pure Erlang. Evidently,…

Erlang Copied Scala's Actors & Erlang's VM is almost a Clone of the JVM - Apr 01, 2011

Erlang was released in 1986, Java in 1995, and Scala in 2004.

I wouldn't be surprised if LFE were older than Scala.

Re: Lisp Flavoured Erlang

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Post by TeMPOraL » Mon, Jul 25, 2016, 12:07 PM UTC

eggy wrote: post #5

amelius wrote: post #2

That cup of coffee in the logo suggests they are compiling to the Java JVM. If true, this makes me wonder why aren't they using Erlang itself as a target?

No, it is built right on top of Erlang for seamless integration, and of note is that it was created by Robert Virding, one of the original creators of Erlang along with Joe Armstrong. LFE macros deliver true homoiconicity to Erlang. It is a Lisp 2, and supports function and macro definitions at the REPL. I prefer it to Elixir, because I prefer Lisp. Robert has also created a Lua 5.2 written in pure Erlang. Evidently,…

It's the other way around. AKKA started as a straight copy of Erlang actor model[0]. And Scala is much younger than Erlang.

EDIT: Oh wait, I got myself baited.

[0] Source: the original author of AKKA admitted it on a Java conference I attended.