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How Britain has been kept safe for a decade

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Re: How Britain has been kept safe for a decade

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If you have various groups working a problem and they don't communicate, they are significantly disadvantaged relative to groups that talk. Each of these groups have their particular specialties, and it could only be beneficial for them to communicate. Now whether this communication is THE standout factor preventing attacks...that seems a stretch.

Re: How Britain has been kept safe for a decade

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Touch a big fucking piece of wood with that title, BBC.

Guns are much rarer in the UK than on the continent. This obviously doesn't make attacks impossible but it does make life harder for terrorists. For example, the maniac who murdered Lee Rigby with a knife tried to get a gun first. All he could get was a modified starter pistol that jammed on the first shot. The right wing terrorist who murdered Jo Cox apparently had a home made single shot pistol. Imagine if they'd been able to get Glocks or Kalashnikovs.

I would like to see more restrictions on high strength peroxide as TATP seems to be the explosive of choice for terrorists.

Re: How Britain has been kept safe for a decade

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Attributing all this to intelligence sharing alone seems an oversimplification. I suspect the difference in the level of assimilation between British Muslims and their French counterparts is the biggest factor.

The problem with French intelligence is the number of services :

− la Direction générale de la sécurité intérieure (DGSI) − la Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure (DGSE) − le Service central du renseignement territorial (SCRT) − la Sous-direction de l’anticipation opérationnelle de la gendarmerie nationale (SDAO) − la Direction du renseignement militaire (DRM) − la Direction de la protection et de la sécurité de la Défense (DPSD) − la Direction du renseignement de la préfecture de police de Paris (DRPP) − la Direction nationale du renseignement et des enquêtes douanières (DNRED) − le Traitement du renseignement et action contre les circuits financiers clandestins (Tracfin)

And the coordination services: − l’Unité de coordination de la lutte antiterroriste (UCLAT) qui n’a autorité que sur les services relevant de la police nationale − l’État-major opérationnel de prévention du terrorisme (EMOPT) directement rattaché au ministre de l’Intérieur − le Coordonnateur national du renseignement auprès du Président de la République

A 2000 pages and 6 months enquirie by a bipartisan commission found we should unify them but it was promptly ignored by the government.

Re: How Britain has been kept safe for a decade

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> Forty terrorist plots have been disrupted since 2005 (in Britain) - including seven in the past 18 months. Does anyone know where these numbers come from? Are the information to the individual cases available?

It depends upon who you trust. Police/government release figures and press releases. However, one of the problems with the official statements is that terrorism trials in the UK can be (and are) held in closed courts in which evidence is withheld. Therefore the public cannot know if what they are being told is accurate+.

+ I don't actually think that we are being lied to (at the moment) but with closed trials we can't know that for sure.

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