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I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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I have always found it more interesting than Tor. After learning some Java, I read through the code, even compiled seminole Monotone DVCS(ironically difficult, because of the recently mentioned legacy version of the Botan C++ crypto library), but it is all a little beyond me.

Perhaps one of the coolest projects I'd seen in a while was Nightweb, a I2P-layered distributed social network, written in Clojure, flashing all the hipster programming bling as it be.

https://github.com/oakes/Nightweb

I have always wondered if it gets the same level of scrutiny or interest from researchers or nation states, as it was largely self-contained and not meant to onion route to public Internet like Tor (judging from my reading of the design).

Please, HNers, school me and impress me with your I2P trivia and knowledge.

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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I have always found it more interesting than Tor. After learning some Java, I read through the code, even compiled seminole Monotone DVCS(ironically difficult, because of the recently mentioned legacy version of the Botan C++ crypto library), but it is all a little beyond me. Perhaps one of the coolest projects I'd seen in a while was Nightweb, a I2P-layered distributed social network, written in Clojure, flashing al…

I2P interest and development has grown with the direct monetization path of more anonymous cryptocurrencies that have attempted to partner with I2P over the years, such as Monero

There have been other cryptocurrencies that had the ethos of being anonymous, such as "anoncoin" but functioned exactly like bitcoin and never was able to develop their obfuscation layer

It is all still in its infancy

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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I have always found it more interesting than Tor. After learning some Java, I read through the code, even compiled seminole Monotone DVCS(ironically difficult, because of the recently mentioned legacy version of the Botan C++ crypto library), but it is all a little beyond me. Perhaps one of the coolest projects I'd seen in a while was Nightweb, a I2P-layered distributed social network, written in Clojure, flashing al…

I2P interest and development has grown with the direct monetization path of more anonymous cryptocurrencies that have attempted to partner with I2P over the years, such as Monero There have been other cryptocurrencies that had the ethos of being anonymous, such as "anoncoin" but functioned exactly like bitcoin and never was able to develop their obfuscation layer It is all still in its infancy

Has it? I had not heard of Monero.

You got stuff I can read? I am curious about the I2P culture, if you are in the know.

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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I read through some of the high level docs, but can someone simply explain how a user discovers other nodes in the network? I started reading the netDB docs [0] but it was pretty dense. [0] https://geti2p.net/en/docs/how/network-database

I entered here for the same question. I offer one million internet points to whoever answers this. Thank you!

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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I read through some of the high level docs, but can someone simply explain how a user discovers other nodes in the network? I started reading the netDB docs [0] but it was pretty dense. [0] https://geti2p.net/en/docs/how/network-database

From the Bootstrapping section of the link you provided..

>volunteers publish their netDb directories (or a subset) on the regular (non-i2p) network, and the URLs of these directories are hardcoded in I2P. When the router starts up for the first time, it automatically fetches from one of these URLs, selected at random.

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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I read through some of the high level docs, but can someone simply explain how a user discovers other nodes in the network? I started reading the netDB docs [0] but it was pretty dense. [0] https://geti2p.net/en/docs/how/network-database

From the Bootstrapping section of the link you provided.. >volunteers publish their netDb directories (or a subset) on the regular (non-i2p) network, and the URLs of these directories are hardcoded in I2P. When the router starts up for the first time, it automatically fetches from one of these URLs, selected at random.

OK, so you put your IP address into several centralized DB's on the regular internet, then when I2P starts it randomly fetches from one of those repositories.

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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I have always found it more interesting than Tor. After learning some Java, I read through the code, even compiled seminole Monotone DVCS(ironically difficult, because of the recently mentioned legacy version of the Botan C++ crypto library), but it is all a little beyond me. Perhaps one of the coolest projects I'd seen in a while was Nightweb, a I2P-layered distributed social network, written in Clojure, flashing al…

>> I have always wondered if it gets the same level of scrutiny or interest from researchers or nation states

My guess is the I2P gets more scrutiny from the US government, because it's much harder to break versus TOR(for which there we're always probably some attacks). It might even be that TOR is a government response for the demand for anonymizing networks - funded specifically in order for the anonymity community to do something else than I2P and anonymous remailers, and seems that the community mostly went with it.

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the Bootstrapping section of the link you provided.. >volunteers publish their netDb directories (or a subset) on the regular (non-i2p) network, and the URLs of these directories are hardcoded in I2P. When the router starts up for the first time, it automatically fetches from one of these URLs, selected at random.

OK, so you put your IP address into several centralized DB's on the regular internet, then when I2P starts it randomly fetches from one of those repositories.

Yea, tor basically does the same thing.
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