Dear Mozilla, Please Don't Kill HTML5 Video

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Post by bcrescimanno » Thu, Mar 18, 2010, 3:49 AM UTC

Dear Mozilla, Please Don't Kill HTML5 Video
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Re: Dear Mozilla, Please Don't Kill HTML5 Video

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Post by jmillikin » Thu, Mar 18, 2010, 4:20 AM UTC

You should be directing this towards Microsoft and Apple; all of my videos work fine in Firefox, Chrome, Chromium, and Opera but currently do not in IE (54.5% market share) or Safari (5.3% share). If IE9 supports Theora, then that's one less browser which will require Java- or Silverlight-based fallbacks.

H.264 is great, and I look forward to being able to use it in 15 years or so[1]. But the only reasonable codecs I can use today are Theora and Dirac.

[1] http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/07/decoding-the...

Re: Dear Mozilla, Please Don't Kill HTML5 Video

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Post by freetard » Thu, Mar 18, 2010, 4:23 AM UTC

Mozilla is waiting for google to open source On2's codec.

Re: Dear Mozilla, Please Don't Kill HTML5 Video

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Post by evgen » Thu, Mar 18, 2010, 4:29 AM UTC

Don't worry, Mozilla is taking a principled stand that will become the impetus for their final jump into irrelevance. If IE9 does what their recent noises regarding HTML5 have been suggesting then Mozilla will join Opera in the "cute but useless" category and Chrome & IE9 will divvy up the Firefox marketshare within three years.

Re: Dear Mozilla, Please Don't Kill HTML5 Video

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Post by docgnome » Thu, Mar 18, 2010, 4:29 AM UTC

I like how Mozilla gets all the blame for refusing to support a non-free solution, instead of Google, Apple, and Microsoft for choosing a proprietary solution.

Re: Dear Mozilla, Please Don't Kill HTML5 Video

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Post by evgen » Thu, Mar 18, 2010, 4:31 AM UTC

freetard wrote: post #3

Mozilla is waiting for google to open source On2's codec.

What benefit if there for Google to do this anytime soon? They can wait for Mozilla to implode, scoop up most of their marketshare and continue to use the On2 codec as a veiled threat to keep MPEG-LA in line. The On2 codec is more useful to Google if it stays locked in a drawer.

Re: Dear Mozilla, Please Don't Kill HTML5 Video

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Post by bcrescimanno » Thu, Mar 18, 2010, 4:33 AM UTC

docgnome wrote: post #5

I like how Mozilla gets all the blame for refusing to support a non-free solution, instead of Google, Apple, and Microsoft for choosing a proprietary solution.

I'd personally contend that MS, Apple, and Google didn't "choose proprietary," they chose 1) the current market leading format 2) ...that has the most video content available online already 3) ...that can be hardware accelarated 4) ...that offers the best quality to size ratio.

Re: Dear Mozilla, Please Don't Kill HTML5 Video

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 18, 2010, 4:35 AM UTC

bcrescimanno wrote: post #7

docgnome wrote: post #5

I like how Mozilla gets all the blame for refusing to support a non-free solution, instead of Google, Apple, and Microsoft for choosing a proprietary solution.

I'd personally contend that MS, Apple, and Google didn't "choose proprietary," they chose 1) the current market leading format 2) ...that has the most video content available online already 3) ...that can be hardware accelarated 4) ...that offers the best quality to size ratio.

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Re: Dear Mozilla, Please Don't Kill HTML5 Video

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Post by daleharvey » Thu, Mar 18, 2010, 4:36 AM UTC

bcrescimanno wrote: post #7

docgnome wrote: post #5

I like how Mozilla gets all the blame for refusing to support a non-free solution, instead of Google, Apple, and Microsoft for choosing a proprietary solution.

I'd personally contend that MS, Apple, and Google didn't "choose proprietary," they chose 1) the current market leading format 2) ...that has the most video content available online already 3) ...that can be hardware accelarated 4) ...that offers the best quality to size ratio.

none of those change the fact that they "chose proprietary"

Re: Dear Mozilla, Please Don't Kill HTML5 Video

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 18, 2010, 4:38 AM UTC

bcrescimanno wrote: post #7

docgnome wrote: post #5

I like how Mozilla gets all the blame for refusing to support a non-free solution, instead of Google, Apple, and Microsoft for choosing a proprietary solution.

I'd personally contend that MS, Apple, and Google didn't "choose proprietary," they chose 1) the current market leading format 2) ...that has the most video content available online already 3) ...that can be hardware accelarated 4) ...that offers the best quality to size ratio.

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