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Japan student held for making Puzzle and Dragons hack

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Re: Japan student held for making Puzzle and Dragons hack

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If someone did this in the US, can they get in trouble?

When exactly does "hacking" a game become illegal? What about people doing it for research like the machine learning mario guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6UVOQ0F44. Or tool-assisted speedruns? Or the starcraft broodwar ai?

Is it only when you breach the TOS or copyrights? Just curious since it never even occurred to me that such things are punishable.

Re: Japan student held for making Puzzle and Dragons hack

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post #2

If someone did this in the US, can they get in trouble? When exactly does "hacking" a game become illegal? What about people doing it for research like the machine learning mario guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6UVOQ0F44 . Or tool-assisted speedruns? Or the starcraft broodwar ai? Is it only when you breach the TOS or copyrights? Just curious since it never even occurred to me that such things are punishable.

At least in the US, I don't believe there is any precedent that establishes it is illegal to alter a product.

There is always push back by companies, but it seems that the general trend is always in favor of the consumer (see, rooting your phone is found legal, this video concerning the legality of modifying cars and tractors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nps24EqiZjY )

Re: Japan student held for making Puzzle and Dragons hack

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post #3

How is this defined as breaking copyright law? Did the cheat contain code from the original game?

It probably has something to do with the tampering of copy protection, which companies would very much like to be illegal. An arrest does not equate to a conviction; there's a chance the charges may not stick, but I don't know Japanese law.

Re: Japan student held for making Puzzle and Dragons hack

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post #2

If someone did this in the US, can they get in trouble? When exactly does "hacking" a game become illegal? What about people doing it for research like the machine learning mario guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6UVOQ0F44 . Or tool-assisted speedruns? Or the starcraft broodwar ai? Is it only when you breach the TOS or copyrights? Just curious since it never even occurred to me that such things are punishable.

It might fall under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act? The DMCA criminalises the act of circumventing an access control mechanism.

Re: Japan student held for making Puzzle and Dragons hack

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Is this a single-player game, or multiplayer?

(Also, I was sure I remembered a game by the same name from the '90s, which I thought was a trivia quiz game with a D&D-ish theme. A brief search hasn't turned up any evidence, though. Anyone else remember that?)

Re: Japan student held for making Puzzle and Dragons hack

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post #2

If someone did this in the US, can they get in trouble? When exactly does "hacking" a game become illegal? What about people doing it for research like the machine learning mario guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6UVOQ0F44 . Or tool-assisted speedruns? Or the starcraft broodwar ai? Is it only when you breach the TOS or copyrights? Just curious since it never even occurred to me that such things are punishable.

There are multiple cases in the United States regarding game hacks.

Some of the more famous involve Blizzard, with the biggest example being a suit against the creators of WowGlider, a bot for World of Warcraft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDY_Industries,_LLC_v._Blizzar...)

Re: Japan student held for making Puzzle and Dragons hack

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post #3

How is this defined as breaking copyright law? Did the cheat contain code from the original game?

It probably has something to do with the tampering of copy protection, which companies would very much like to be illegal. An arrest does not equate to a conviction; there's a chance the charges may not stick, but I don't know Japanese law.

While an arrest doesn't equate to prosecution, in Japan, prosecution almost equates conviction (somewhere around 99.9%).
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