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An industry that helps Chinese cheat their way into and through US colleges

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Re: An industry that helps Chinese cheat their way into and through US colleges

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I am sure they could stop it but the money the students bring is too valuable.

I have no relevant experience in academic finance, but I sincerely doubt it. The brand and reputation of the universities are what allows them to charge so much for tuition and get prestigious faculty (i.e. grant money).

Besides, at a large research University, tuition is usually not the majority of their income (http://www.uiowa.edu/homepage/about-university/budget)

Re: An industry that helps Chinese cheat their way into and through US colleges

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post #5

I am sure they could stop it but the money the students bring is too valuable.

I have no relevant experience in academic finance, but I sincerely doubt it. The brand and reputation of the universities are what allows them to charge so much for tuition and get prestigious faculty (i.e. grant money). Besides, at a large research University, tuition is usually not the majority of their income ( http://www.uiowa.edu/homepage/about-university/budget )

International students are a boon for "good but not top" private colleges. Those lose a lot of money giving top students full rides to improve their ranking/chance at graduating a billionaire or something like that. They make it up by admitting tons of international students who pay full or near full price because back home any decent US degree is seen as amazing.

My sources are anecdotal but I went to a university like that. Some classes were 70% Chinese international.

Re: An industry that helps Chinese cheat their way into and through US colleges

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Unrelated but: It's easy to believe that yr peers are cheating. But I believe there are a lot of hard working people that know the concequence of cheating your way through.

But often the consequences are rather light. I can't think of anyone facing any serious repercussions -- the worst was failing an assignment.

Re: An industry that helps Chinese cheat their way into and through US colleges

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Cheating is and always should be a pox that needs to be eradicated. But let's not turn a blind eye to what's happening here locally. Parents in the 1% spend an extraordinary amount of money and resources on college-prep companies, many of which tell the kids exactly what extracurriculars to take, what to do after school, and virtually write the entire outline of their admissions essays. It's little wonder that schools like Harvard are playgrounds for the ultra-elite.

Re: An industry that helps Chinese cheat their way into and through US colleges

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post #6

Unrelated but: It's easy to believe that yr peers are cheating. But I believe there are a lot of hard working people that know the concequence of cheating your way through.

But often the consequences are rather light. I can't think of anyone facing any serious repercussions -- the worst was failing an assignment.

I've taught university classes, and failed students on the class for cheating. But it's true that I haven't seen anyone kicked out of a program or a university for cheating.
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