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Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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It's posts like this that make me think something that resembles IPFS just has to work out, in spite of all the big problems that are yet to be solved.

Because I see this, and I think, "Wow, that's cool. I want to listen to some of these." And it just makes so much sense that my computer should be able to compute a hash of that archive and seed it for others, at least as long as it's on my machine.

It makes me think about how recently, we've collectively embraced an abstraction of what it means to share content online, because of the way that social media works. There's the actual transfer of bits, and then the newly-formed social-media advertisement that says, "I endorse this content."

Isn't it a little fucked up that most (all?) of our social networks don't allow for you to share content to other people without implicitly making a statement about it?

Is anyone aware of someone attempting to create social browser history? I already share it with Google. It might be fun to share it with friends, too.

eg: See that a coworker and I both have visited that stackoverflow post a dozen times, or see that my highschool teacher also read that article, or see that my friend listened to the new Radiohead album.

The problem with Facebook, and even with Twitter, is that every single post becomes a statement. I think this is why snapchat is filling a niche -- maybe it's actually not interesting because of impermanence, but maybe it's about the expected notability of each post. On Twitter or Facebook, your posts end up in the feed of someone else, so there's a pressure to not shitpost.

Snapchat doesn't really have that. You can post dumb shit to your story all night, and people just will get tired of looking at it and go to someone else. No harm done.

I wonder if social browser history could work for the same reason. Unfortunately, I think it'd be a hard sell. People see their browser history as private, in spite of the fact that their browser is full of third-party tracking cookies. You'd never get people to download an addon.

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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It's posts like this that make me think something that resembles IPFS just has to work out, in spite of all the big problems that are yet to be solved. Because I see this, and I think, "Wow, that's cool. I want to listen to some of these." And it just makes so much sense that my computer should be able to compute a hash of that archive and seed it for others, at least as long as it's on my machine. It makes me think…

I understand your point, but the phenomenon you're describing is essentially just curation. Social media has simply shifted curation from established sources (newspapers, critics, etc.) to everyone.

I would question whether the solution is less curation.

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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It's posts like this that make me think something that resembles IPFS just has to work out, in spite of all the big problems that are yet to be solved. Because I see this, and I think, "Wow, that's cool. I want to listen to some of these." And it just makes so much sense that my computer should be able to compute a hash of that archive and seed it for others, at least as long as it's on my machine. It makes me think…

I understand your point, but the phenomenon you're describing is essentially just curation. Social media has simply shifted curation from established sources (newspapers, critics, etc.) to everyone. I would question whether the solution is less curation.

I don't think I was clear enough on how I imagine this working. I wouldn't have it work where you can look at the browser history of any of your friends, or as a feed.

Instead, I would use any of my social-news aggregators normally, but if I end up on a page that a friend has also ended up on, It would be fun to be able to see that, and maybe I could leave tiny comments scattered around the web, visible only to my peers who come across it, and we can annotate together.

That makes me think about Genius. I remember seeing them work on this a bit, but it was a couple years ago IIRC.

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Mixtapes are kind of the open-source version of rap music. Sort of free to download, remix, and distribute. Sort of... Almost every rapper who is popular right now (meaning, being played on the radio, touring...) has released their music for FREE, months, if not years, before being available for sale on iTunes, or CD. Sure, the iTunes version was mastered by someone who wasn't stoned, but it's pretty crazy that arguably one of the most popular forms of music in the world is distributed for free, on niche websites like datpiff, before it's available for purchase.

Record companies made a push to crack down on mixtape releases in the mid 2000's, even going as far as trying to pin DJ Drama (gansta grilllllllzzzzz) with a RICO charge, for illegal distribution of music owned by the rappers record companies.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/01/18/arts/music/18dram.html?...

A lot of these guys, didn't even want to fuck with the big labels, because they didn't get anything from them. The money they would receive from a record deal, could be just as easily made by selling merch, and going on tour, all without having to pay back a record advance.

Unfortunately, Apple has figured this out. Rappers are now signing deals for their mixtapes to be iTunes exclusives for a few weeks, and Apple with all their force, is cracking down on sites like datpiff for releasing the tapes they have exclusive rights too.

Young Thugs brilliant Slime Season trilogy was released on datpiff up until the third installation. Apple got an exclusive.

Just hope this amazing ecosystem doesn't disappear...

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand your point, but the phenomenon you're describing is essentially just curation. Social media has simply shifted curation from established sources (newspapers, critics, etc.) to everyone. I would question whether the solution is less curation.

I don't think I was clear enough on how I imagine this working. I wouldn't have it work where you can look at the browser history of any of your friends, or as a feed. Instead, I would use any of my social-news aggregators normally, but if I end up on a page that a friend has also ended up on, It would be fun to be able to see that, and maybe I could leave tiny comments scattered around the web, visible only to my pe…

> If I end up on a page that a friend has also ended up on, It would be fun to be able to see that, and maybe I could leave tiny comments scattered around the web, visible only to my peers who come across it, and we can annotate together.

There are quite a few browser plugins out there that offer this, and I seem to recall a browser that had that functionality built in as well

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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More than once, archive.org has hosted something I though was not possible under the current copyright regime.

MAME ROMs, old time radio shows, and, well, this.

So for someone who's not paying attention, does anyone have an explanation of how they're allowed to do this?

For example, do they have special dispensation from the Librarian of Congress?

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