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Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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It's the Wall-e Scenario. If we can find a way to continue to consume cheap, shelf-stable, nutrient-dense food; while at the same time repairing our bodies from the side effects, we can be fat blobs living and consuming and growing the economy.

And whether that's unilaterally a bad thing may not be a settled question. The top 5 drugs in the US[1] are remedies for problems caused by advanced society - a statin, antacid, blood thinner, inhaler and antidepressant. They enable many of the affordances we provide for ourselves.

[1]http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20110420/the-10-mo...

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"On Oct 18 the US company Genzyme announced it had formalised an agreement to acquire Cell Genesys for approximately US$350 million. This move follows an agreement by the pharmaceutical division of Japan Tobacco, the world's third-largest tobacco company, to purchase the rights to therapeutic and preventive lung-cancer vaccines under development by Cell Genesys and another American biotechnology company, Corixa. If the vaccines are approved, Japan Tobacco will find itself in the unusual position of marketing products that cause, prevent, and treat the same disease."

Murray, S. (1999) Kill or cure, confused messages from Japan Tobacco. The Lancet, 354(9188), p.1456.

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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post #2

It's the Wall-e Scenario. If we can find a way to continue to consume cheap, shelf-stable, nutrient-dense food; while at the same time repairing our bodies from the side effects, we can be fat blobs living and consuming and growing the economy. And whether that's unilaterally a bad thing may not be a settled question. The top 5 drugs in the US[1] are remedies for problems caused by advanced society - a statin, antaci…

curious why an inhaler is something that is required by an advanced society. I'm asthmatic, but aside from that relatively healthy (not overweight, exercise regularly, eat well-ish, no othe major medical conditions). While my asthma definitely isn't helped if I'm inhaling diesel fumes, I'm far more likely to haven an exercise induced attack.

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Would it make you feel better if they had a subsidiary do it under a different name and you didn't know. Or even a different company do it? It's all the same economy stupid. You have a problem with the basic assumptions and ethics of the economy, nothing more.

The economy is sort of a blind watchmaker, it is optimized to produce profit for the Capitalist class and jobs for the worker class. Everything else does not matter to it. Whether it pollutes the planet, makes fatties, limits the chances of human survival. It knows nothing but to do the two above things. Everything else is someone else's problem.

And at the same time governments in the so-called free world have been advocating to help it do this more freely without any constraints from the would-be control mechanisms like pesky governments which would control this sort of behavior.

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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"On Oct 18 the US company Genzyme announced it had formalised an agreement to acquire Cell Genesys for approximately US$350 million. This move follows an agreement by the pharmaceutical division of Japan Tobacco, the world's third-largest tobacco company, to purchase the rights to therapeutic and preventive lung-cancer vaccines under development by Cell Genesys and another American biotechnology company, Corixa. If t…

Why not both? It's an arms race. Why not supply both sides?

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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It's the Wall-e Scenario. If we can find a way to continue to consume cheap, shelf-stable, nutrient-dense food; while at the same time repairing our bodies from the side effects, we can be fat blobs living and consuming and growing the economy. And whether that's unilaterally a bad thing may not be a settled question. The top 5 drugs in the US[1] are remedies for problems caused by advanced society - a statin, antaci…

It would evidently be bad for people to be blobs of fat, remember that in WALL-E they couldn't even stand up.

That level of physical impairment is awful whether you're mortally ill or not.

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It's the Wall-e Scenario. If we can find a way to continue to consume cheap, shelf-stable, nutrient-dense food; while at the same time repairing our bodies from the side effects, we can be fat blobs living and consuming and growing the economy. And whether that's unilaterally a bad thing may not be a settled question. The top 5 drugs in the US[1] are remedies for problems caused by advanced society - a statin, antaci…

Your link didn't work for me. I think this is the one:

http://www.webmd.com/news/20110420/the-10-most-prescribed-dr...

It's also should be noted those top five are "[t]he 10 drugs on which we spent the most..." The most prescribed are for somewhat different but overlapping conditions.

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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It's the Wall-e Scenario. If we can find a way to continue to consume cheap, shelf-stable, nutrient-dense food; while at the same time repairing our bodies from the side effects, we can be fat blobs living and consuming and growing the economy. And whether that's unilaterally a bad thing may not be a settled question. The top 5 drugs in the US[1] are remedies for problems caused by advanced society - a statin, antaci…

curious why an inhaler is something that is required by an advanced society. I'm asthmatic, but aside from that relatively healthy (not overweight, exercise regularly, eat well-ish, no othe major medical conditions). While my asthma definitely isn't helped if I'm inhaling diesel fumes, I'm far more likely to haven an exercise induced attack.

Likewise I am not effected by my asthma unless exercising and there doesn't seem to be any difference whether I'm living in a polluted city or in the countryside.
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