Learning Chess at 40
nautil.us
Learning Chess at 40
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#2A great thing about learning and playing online is that you can find an opponent at your same skill level within minutes. Unlike learning in a local club, where every person you will ever play beats you every time, I win slightly more than half my games. I also get this nice increasing graph of my skill level. This is a lot more fun.
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#3Maybe being young and concentrating on a single thing makes you more obsessed about it? So you end up spending a lot of time on just it.
Maybe the older you get the less obsessed you can be, having the interest spread around on family, work, and other thoughts?
Maybe accumulated knowledge makes you slower at learning and playing because you're more cautious due to the mistakes you made before?
The research showing the decline is really weird. As I've got older I felt I learned stuff much more quickly than when I started college. I know so much that this knowledge allows me to avoid traps. Far sooner I have a feeling of understanding and can demonstrate it to someone else.
If your whole life is oriented on learning and improvement it's weird to think that will slow down.
People, as they age, lose interest in learning and rarely become obsessed about something, for most it is right after highschool, for some after college. No wonder the performance drops and IQ too. No one is using that brain as hard as it was used before.
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#4I'm learning the game of Go at near fourty. But I'm not having any of the problems he describes. A great thing about learning and playing online is that you can find an opponent at your same skill level within minutes. Unlike learning in a local club, where every person you will ever play beats you every time, I win slightly more than half my games. I also get this nice increasing graph of my skill level. This is a l…
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#5The research on young and successful isn't really showing any causation. Maybe being young and concentrating on a single thing makes you more obsessed about it? So you end up spending a lot of time on just it. Maybe the older you get the less obsessed you can be, having the interest spread around on family, work, and other thoughts? Maybe accumulated knowledge makes you slower at learning and playing because you're m…
But for everything else, I agree with you. I'm able to learn new skills considerably faster now than in my twenties. Part of that is practice learning, and part of that is having a lot of things to relate any new concept to.
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#6I'm learning the game of Go at near fourty. But I'm not having any of the problems he describes. A great thing about learning and playing online is that you can find an opponent at your same skill level within minutes. Unlike learning in a local club, where every person you will ever play beats you every time, I win slightly more than half my games. I also get this nice increasing graph of my skill level. This is a l…
Where do you play?
I highly recommend it.
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#7The research on young and successful isn't really showing any causation. Maybe being young and concentrating on a single thing makes you more obsessed about it? So you end up spending a lot of time on just it. Maybe the older you get the less obsessed you can be, having the interest spread around on family, work, and other thoughts? Maybe accumulated knowledge makes you slower at learning and playing because you're m…
Drifting into a personal monologue, I know I am a lot better at learning now than I was 15 years ago. Learning advanced mathematics now is much easier than it was then (measured in the rather subjective unit of "amount learned / time taken"). Languages also are much easier. The only difference is the amount of time I put in now compared to the amount of time I put in then. If I was in full-time education now (instead of a half hour to an hour a few times a week) I would be yomping through textbooks and courses.
I think some of it is that I just know so much more now, and I've got so much more experience of joining knowledge up and making use of the combined result. I've also got so much more confidence in my ability to learn, and I know that if I'm struggling, grinding through does get results. I don't get demoralised, I don't wonder if I'm ever going to be able to understand it; I just do it.
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#8The research on young and successful isn't really showing any causation. Maybe being young and concentrating on a single thing makes you more obsessed about it? So you end up spending a lot of time on just it. Maybe the older you get the less obsessed you can be, having the interest spread around on family, work, and other thoughts? Maybe accumulated knowledge makes you slower at learning and playing because you're m…
Maybe amateurs learning at different ages is a different phenomena than the top competitors decline, but the research showing the decline of professionals is certainly not weird, and probably not even research, since they are easy to lookup facts.
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#9The research on young and successful isn't really showing any causation. Maybe being young and concentrating on a single thing makes you more obsessed about it? So you end up spending a lot of time on just it. Maybe the older you get the less obsessed you can be, having the interest spread around on family, work, and other thoughts? Maybe accumulated knowledge makes you slower at learning and playing because you're m…
Chess, and perhaps Go, might be outliers here, in that both are designed to exceed the human mind's possible ability. But for everything else, I agree with you. I'm able to learn new skills considerably faster now than in my twenties. Part of that is practice learning, and part of that is having a lot of things to relate any new concept to.
This is an interesting way to put it that I haven't thought about before. I have found it hard to explain that sometimes new things are easy to learn and sometimes hard.
I usually attribute this to the difficulty of the concept, but maybe it's that I'm not really learning the easy things but finding a very similar concept to relate it to that I already know.