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Hackers are the new lawyers

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Re: Hackers are the new lawyers

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I think lawyers are still the new lawyers.

One of the major benefits of society is to remove the need for individuals to keep their own firepower. You're allowed to defend yourself, but the goal is to make it so you can feel safe in a city of 8 million people with no more than a heavy bag, cell phone, or can of mace.

In the digital world, you still need self-defense (network protections, strong passwords, small attack surface), but hopefully not everybody has to hire cyber-thugs to defend their turf. If another cyber-thug attacks you, you figure out who they are, call your lawyer, and let the state deal with it.

It's not perfect, but I'd think lawyers will learn unmasking techniques before corporations hire body-guard divisions full of black-hat crypto types. And international conflict is always messier...

Re: Hackers are the new lawyers

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I think this greatly overestimates the importance of IT and high technology in the modern economy. Outside of the pure tech companies that are well known on HN, most technology is used to facilitate the rest of whatever the company in question does. It isn't the business itself.

Most economic value is due to labor and tangible products, and cyber attacks can only indirectly touch those. Cyber attacks are unfortunate, sure, but they're hardly all that damaging to the core operations of the organizations they affect, unless, of course, it's something like Stuxnet, where physical damage is done.

Re: Hackers are the new lawyers

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I think this greatly overestimates the importance of IT and high technology in the modern economy. Outside of the pure tech companies that are well known on HN, most technology is used to facilitate the rest of whatever the company in question does. It isn't the business itself. Most economic value is due to labor and tangible products, and cyber attacks can only indirectly touch those. Cyber attacks are unfortunate,…

Absolutely. One just has to look af the Global 2000 list to see how little tech and software make businesses directly. It's usually indirect as you say, even minimized in many.

Re: Hackers are the new lawyers

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I think this greatly overestimates the importance of IT and high technology in the modern economy. Outside of the pure tech companies that are well known on HN, most technology is used to facilitate the rest of whatever the company in question does. It isn't the business itself. Most economic value is due to labor and tangible products, and cyber attacks can only indirectly touch those. Cyber attacks are unfortunate,…

>It isn't the business itself.

Neither is lawyering, that's his point. Lawyers do not (usually) create value, they protect it, same as the hackers he is talking about.

>Cyber attacks are unfortunate, sure, but they're hardly all that damaging to the core operations of the organizations they affect, unless, of course, it's something like Stuxnet, where physical damage is done.

The Sony hack: http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/02/sony-hacking-set...

Bangladesh Bank hack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Bangladesh_Bank_heist

Re: Hackers are the new lawyers

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In certain aspects corporations already do have more power than government. However that's because of money rather than tech chops. It's important now more than ever for companies to have a viable security model.

Re: Hackers are the new lawyers

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off topic... after listening to Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution during my commute over the last month (and to a degree Masters of Doom) it is distracting to see the word "hacker" in relation to cyber attacks/espionage. When I was growing up hacker always meant someone who broke into computer systems/networks, then I started hearing about hacking actually meaning something else originally and of course in more recent years with hacker news, hardware hacking and other usage of the word becoming more popular "hacker" seemed to take back its original meaning. Now after listening to some books that only use the word under its original meaning it is hard to take articles seriously that use it in relation to breaking into systems. When I saw the title of this article I misunderstood their usage of "hackers" /rant
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