Cupertino's mayor: Apple 'abuses us' by not paying taxes
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Cupertino's mayor: Apple 'abuses us' by not paying taxes
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Re: Cupertino's mayor: Apple 'abuses us' by not paying taxes
#2It's fun and easy to point fingers, and while tax avoidance should by no means by encouraged, why is 35% of your money the direct property of a government who does superb things like conjure into existence some of the most criminal oligopolies in the medical industry?
Maybe demand Apple to build the infrastructure themselves at their own expense, and let them manage it, seems they can actually get things done.
Uncle Sam's virtues seem to end with insane taxation used to bomb other countries and slowly but surely kill its citizens through rudimentary medical care bills in the hundreds of thousands, maybe leave real work to other people, who don't spend 600 mil of taxpayer dollar on a website.
Re: Cupertino's mayor: Apple 'abuses us' by not paying taxes
#3Is the money better in the hands of a super overgrown and overstaffed organisation like the US government when most of it goes to paying interest to the lovely central banks folks and the public has almost 0 transparency over its expenditure? The perfect portrayal of profound inefficiency and over-bloated corporate structure. It's fun and easy to point fingers, and while tax avoidance should by no means by encouraged…
This is the municipal government complaining. Municipal governments are in charge of education, local police, and water supply... to name a few things.
The federal government barely does much at the local level. The USA is a very decentralized system.
So how about you at least complain about the right thing? If Cupertino's municipal police forces were locking people up unnecessarily or were an ineffective municipal government, that'd actually be relevant to the topic. But methinks you're just ranting about unrelated subjects.
Re: Cupertino's mayor: Apple 'abuses us' by not paying taxes
#4Apparently there is also an agreement where the city refunds sales taxes back to Apple? Originally 50% and now down to 35%? Why does this even exist?
The way to get Apple to pay for infrastructure improvements is simple, don't do any near their campus and their own employees will be impacted and that will get Apple to agree to help redevelop the area.
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#5I had to read it again to make sure I'm not making a mistake. Its unimaginable in some geographies. Evokes mixed feelings like : "cool, they can do that?" to "that's quite arrogant"
Also reminds me of a video where Steve Jobs met the council. The mayor was delighted like a teenager, showing off his iPad to Steve, asking for free Wifi : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtuz5OmOh_M ( t=19:54 )
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#6> Barry Chang barely made it into the lobby when Apple’s security team surrounded and escorted him off the property. I had to read it again to make sure I'm not making a mistake. Its unimaginable in some geographies. Evokes mixed feelings like : "cool, they can do that?" to "that's quite arrogant" Also reminds me of a video where Steve Jobs met the council. The mayor was delighted like a teenager, showing off his iPa…
> Getting local politicians to battle Apple is hard, Chang said. He recently proposed that Apple – which is building a massive new campus its own employees nicknamed the Death Star, or more favorably, The Spaceship – should give $100m to improve city infrastructure. To move on the proposal, Chang only needed to get a single vote ‘yes’ among the three other eligible council members. He failed to get that vote.
What's his logic for this special Tax on Apple? It sounds like this guy is an anti-corporate loon, drinking too much Sanders juice or something. Sounds like the other council members are more rational.
Re: Cupertino's mayor: Apple 'abuses us' by not paying taxes
#7> Barry Chang barely made it into the lobby when Apple’s security team surrounded and escorted him off the property. I had to read it again to make sure I'm not making a mistake. Its unimaginable in some geographies. Evokes mixed feelings like : "cool, they can do that?" to "that's quite arrogant" Also reminds me of a video where Steve Jobs met the council. The mayor was delighted like a teenager, showing off his iPa…
Re: Cupertino's mayor: Apple 'abuses us' by not paying taxes
#8> Barry Chang barely made it into the lobby when Apple’s security team surrounded and escorted him off the property. I had to read it again to make sure I'm not making a mistake. Its unimaginable in some geographies. Evokes mixed feelings like : "cool, they can do that?" to "that's quite arrogant" Also reminds me of a video where Steve Jobs met the council. The mayor was delighted like a teenager, showing off his iPa…
Why couldn't they? It's private property.
Re: Cupertino's mayor: Apple 'abuses us' by not paying taxes
#9So Apple is already contributing nearly twenty percent of the city's budget? I think the real problem is not enough diversification. Apparently there is also an agreement where the city refunds sales taxes back to Apple? Originally 50% and now down to 35%? Why does this even exist? The way to get Apple to pay for infrastructure improvements is simple, don't do any near their campus and their own employees will be imp…
And whatever they build they will control. I think you might be slowly giving away the city to a corporation.
Re: Cupertino's mayor: Apple 'abuses us' by not paying taxes
#10Is it just me, or does this Mr. Chang just sound incompetent?
His citizens are saying he's making the wrong decisions. He's walking onto Apple's property and being forced out. He's asking for special taxes against Apple without saying why Apple deserves these taxes.
How about Chang makes the right decisions that pleases his citizens? Has anyone actually been to a Town Hall meeting? People don't just crumple-up the agendas because your budget sucks. They crumple-up agendas because the meeting was a waste of everybody's time.
I think this Mayor can't run a Town Hall, doesn't have much support of the citizens, and his only "big idea" is to increase taxes against Apple (and maybe some moonshot projects no one gives a care about)
A REAL Mayor would have said something along the lines of "The highway leading to Apple Headquarters is full of potholes, and I don't have the budget to fix it!". Or maybe "Teachers deserve a higher salary in this town" (or something... connected to reality, you know?). This guy just seems jealous of Apple's cash.