I would love to find a trustworthy site with information on this question, and yes, I will be hiring a lawyer for this information, eventually.
Ask HN: Is legal language copyrighted?
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#3This section includes a list of eight "works of authorship" (literary works, musical works, dramatic works, pantomimes and choreographic works, pictorial, graphic, and sculptural works, motion picture and other audiovisual works, sound recordings, and architectural works), but that list is not intended to be all-inclusive. In addition, the categories are broadly construed, as for example to sweep computer programs and compilations into the definition of "literary works."
Thus, there is nothing preventing legal language from being copyrightable as long as it constitutes an "original work of authorship." And, if you go to any site that offers legal forms for download, you will find the vendor claiming copyright in the contracts being offered, thus presumably precluding others from taking the same contracts and re-selling them.
That said, the kinds of legal language and contracts you are talking about are almost never made the subject of copyright, I think, simply because they are usually not "original." Most clauses for indemnification, etc. are recycled over and over. Lawyers themselves will often lift them for re-use.
You are right to be concerned about the potential risks in this area but, in practice, I have never heard of any large website complaining of copyright violations from use of legal language similar to theirs and I think the practical risk of borrowing their language is low. For much of the standard stuff involved, I would think it would be nearly impossible for them to prove that the language used is "original" as required for it to be copyrightable.
Moreover, to sue for federal copyright infringement in the U.S., the copyrighted material needs to be formally registered with the copyright office. I would seriously doubt that any large website bothers with this formal requirement over a matter about which they normally could care less (other than making sure it protects their own legal position as used on their site).
I don't know of any definitive place to find a discussion on this but I believe this gives you a pretty good overview of how this area generally works. You can and should check with your attorney about details for your specific situation.
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#4http://www.bennadel.com/coldfusion/privacy-policy-generator....
Re: Ask HN: Is legal language copyrighted?
#517 USC section 102(a): "Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this title, in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression . . ." This section includes a list of eight "works of authorship" (literary works, musical works, dramatic works, pantomimes and choreographic works, pictorial, graphic, and sculptural works, motion picture and other audiovisual works, sound recordings, and…
You can find some "public" terms of service and other boilerplate stuff for your web site by digging a little bit. Just don't copy verbatim without understanding what you are doing.
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#6That said: I asked this question directly to my attorney a couple months ago, as she was reviewing a contract I had cobbled together from similar specimens I found on the web. She said that no, legal language found in contracts is not at all copyrightable in the USA. I've informally gotten the same response from a couple of other attorney friends over beers.
The funny thing is, from what I've been able to find about copyright law - again, as an entrepreneur and as an open-source/free software programmer, not an attorney - there is no explicit exception I know of for contract language. My guess is that common legal practice has evolved so that the courts won't enforce it, and attorneys won't pursue it, for a basic reason: it would be overwhelmingly stupid to do otherwise.
Contract language is normally intended to be precise, clear and unambiguous. If every contract had to be tweaked because some propane-tank business in Montana or something just happened to use the same wording before you did... well, that would be a minefield that makes the software patent mess look like a tranquil field of daisies in comparison.
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#7The merger doctrine holds that when there is only one way to say something (or a limited number of ways), then it cannot be copyrighted. One common example from the case law is game instructions.
Just as there's really only one way to say "The player who rolls the highest amount goes first", there's really only one way to say "Florida law governs any dispute".
Certainly run it by a lawyer willing to make the advice official. Good luck.
Re: Ask HN: Is legal language copyrighted?
#8I'm not a lawyer. You should talk with one before doing anything. That said: I asked this question directly to my attorney a couple months ago, as she was reviewing a contract I had cobbled together from similar specimens I found on the web. She said that no, legal language found in contracts is not at all copyrightable in the USA. I've informally gotten the same response from a couple of other attorney friends over…
Re: Ask HN: Is legal language copyrighted?
#9Here are the best resources that I found on this matter:
Re: copyright notice on contract http://www3.wcl.american.edu/cni/9908/23029.html
Copyright and the Contract Drafter http://www.adamsdrafting.com/downloads/Copyright-NYLJ-8.23.0...