Xterm(1) now UTF-8 by default on OpenBSD

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Post by protomyth » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 9:31 PM UTC

Xterm(1) now UTF-8 by default on OpenBSD
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Re: Xterm(1) now UTF-8 by default on OpenBSD

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Post by igravious » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 10:36 PM UTC

I've been trying to teach myself some unicode code points because I'm getting sick and tired of continually Googling them and copying and pasting the result or bringing up a symbol character table.

In fact, I'd say keyboards are woefully out to date.

Specifically, I keep looking up † dagger (U+2020) and ‡ double-dagger (U+2021) for footnotes, black heart (U+2065) to be romantic, black star (U+2605) to talk about David Bowie's last album and ∞ to talk about actual non-finite entities.

I olny found out recently that Ctrl+Shift+u and then type unicode hexadecimal outputs these in Ubuntu, presumably all Linuxen. AltGr+8 is great for diaeresis while we're at it so you can go all hëävÿ mëtäl really easily.

edit: black heart and star are not making it through, why Lord, why?!

Re: Xterm(1) now UTF-8 by default on OpenBSD

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Post by elros » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 10:43 PM UTC

igravious wrote: post #2

I've been trying to teach myself some unicode code points because I'm getting sick and tired of continually Googling them and copying and pasting the result or bringing up a symbol character table. In fact, I'd say keyboards are woefully out to date. Specifically, I keep looking up † dagger (U+2020) and ‡ double-dagger (U+2021) for footnotes, black heart (U+2065) to be romantic, black star (U+2605) to talk about Davi…

On OS X, if you type Command+Control+Space, it brings up a character insertion menu where you can search by character name. I can get both daggers, black star and black heart quite quickly that way.

Re: Xterm(1) now UTF-8 by default on OpenBSD

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Post by jcranmer » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 10:52 PM UTC

igravious wrote: post #2

I've been trying to teach myself some unicode code points because I'm getting sick and tired of continually Googling them and copying and pasting the result or bringing up a symbol character table. In fact, I'd say keyboards are woefully out to date. Specifically, I keep looking up † dagger (U+2020) and ‡ double-dagger (U+2021) for footnotes, black heart (U+2065) to be romantic, black star (U+2605) to talk about Davi…

That Ctrl+Shift+u hint is nice. Now I can type all the time I want without having to browse for the emoji page to copy it.

And it sucks that I have to use so much that I know the code point for it (1F4A9) off the top of my head. :-(

Edit: I'm definitely putting in U+1F4A9 (the PILE OF POO character), but apparently hacker news strips it out. I'm guessing it's filtering everything that has a symbol character class?

Re: Xterm(1) now UTF-8 by default on OpenBSD

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Post by scrupulusalbion » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 10:56 PM UTC

igravious wrote: post #2

I've been trying to teach myself some unicode code points because I'm getting sick and tired of continually Googling them and copying and pasting the result or bringing up a symbol character table. In fact, I'd say keyboards are woefully out to date. Specifically, I keep looking up † dagger (U+2020) and ‡ double-dagger (U+2021) for footnotes, black heart (U+2065) to be romantic, black star (U+2605) to talk about Davi…

A few months ago, I had the idea to remake the old Space Cadet keyboard. One change was to make the bucky bits (e.g. control, alt, meta, super, etc.) allow you to type unicode characters instead of APL characters. Other than that and having lower case parentheses (not needing to use shift to type ( or ) ), the keyboard would be like any other mechanical keyboard.

Re: Xterm(1) now UTF-8 by default on OpenBSD

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Post by kbd » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 11:02 PM UTC

igravious wrote: post #2

I've been trying to teach myself some unicode code points because I'm getting sick and tired of continually Googling them and copying and pasting the result or bringing up a symbol character table. In fact, I'd say keyboards are woefully out to date. Specifically, I keep looking up † dagger (U+2020) and ‡ double-dagger (U+2021) for footnotes, black heart (U+2065) to be romantic, black star (U+2605) to talk about Davi…

I have a stupid little 'clip' program I wrote that has a dictionary of common texts that I can call by name and have added to the clipboard.

    $ clip lod
    $ pbpaste
    ಠ_ಠ

Maybe you can do the same without needing to remember code points. Something like TextExpander would accomplish the same thing.

Re: Xterm(1) now UTF-8 by default on OpenBSD

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Post by msbarnett » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 11:11 PM UTC

elros wrote: post #3

igravious wrote: post #2

I've been trying to teach myself some unicode code points because I'm getting sick and tired of continually Googling them and copying and pasting the result or bringing up a symbol character table. In fact, I'd say keyboards are woefully out to date. Specifically, I keep looking up † dagger (U+2020) and ‡ double-dagger (U+2021) for footnotes, black heart (U+2065) to be romantic, black star (U+2605) to talk about Davi…

On OS X, if you type Command+Control+Space, it brings up a character insertion menu where you can search by character name. I can get both daggers, black star and black heart quite quickly that way.

Also on OS X, † is option-t, and ‡ is option-shift-7.

Re: Xterm(1) now UTF-8 by default on OpenBSD

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Post by igravious » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 11:36 PM UTC

jcranmer wrote: post #4

igravious wrote: post #2

I've been trying to teach myself some unicode code points because I'm getting sick and tired of continually Googling them and copying and pasting the result or bringing up a symbol character table. In fact, I'd say keyboards are woefully out to date. Specifically, I keep looking up † dagger (U+2020) and ‡ double-dagger (U+2021) for footnotes, black heart (U+2065) to be romantic, black star (U+2605) to talk about Davi…

That Ctrl+Shift+u hint is nice. Now I can type all the time I want without having to browse for the emoji page to copy it. And it sucks that I have to use so much that I know the code point for it (1F4A9) off the top of my head. :-( Edit: I'm definitely putting in U+1F4A9 (the PILE OF POO character), but apparently hacker news strips it out. I'm guessing it's filtering everything that has a symbol character class?

Yes! The Ctrl+Shift+u hint is nice. I can't believe I only just learnt it. How many _years_ have I been Googling unicode characters for? I am ashamed to think.

I am glad PILE OF POO does not work for you.

does (U+2603) snowman work?

edit: noooo, no snowman

Re: Xterm(1) now UTF-8 by default on OpenBSD

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Post by igravious » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 11:40 PM UTC

msbarnett wrote: post #7

elros wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On OS X, if you type Command+Control+Space, it brings up a character insertion menu where you can search by character name. I can get both daggers, black star and black heart quite quickly that way.

Also on OS X, † is option-t, and ‡ is option-shift-7.

Ok, On Linux I have found ‡ and †

† is AltGr-Shift-%, and ‡ AltGr-Shift-:

I'll never remember them :(

Re: Xterm(1) now UTF-8 by default on OpenBSD

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Post by dylan-m » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 11:50 PM UTC

igravious wrote: post #2

I've been trying to teach myself some unicode code points because I'm getting sick and tired of continually Googling them and copying and pasting the result or bringing up a symbol character table. In fact, I'd say keyboards are woefully out to date. Specifically, I keep looking up † dagger (U+2020) and ‡ double-dagger (U+2021) for footnotes, black heart (U+2065) to be romantic, black star (U+2605) to talk about Davi…

Another really handy thing is the Compose key. If you're using GNOME it's under Keyboard Settings, under Shortcuts / Typing. I have it set to Right Alt. The idea is there's just a whole bunch of memorable key sequences for various common Unicode characters. For example, Alt + o + o = °; < + 3 = black heart, < + " = “, etc. It doesn't have all of the ones you like, but it's helpful :)