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EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote

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Re: EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote

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I really hope for an exit. I just want to see what will happen with UK outside of EU. Especially since they have done nothing to fulfill their pre referendum Scottish promises. The imperial preference days are over. That is a lesson the British need to learn. And a self inflicted wound will be the best way to do it.

So either UK will be in EU as with all other or not at all. The current state of affairs as we are in EU only for the good stuff mightily annoys me.

Re: EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote

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I really hope for an exit. I just want to see what will happen with UK outside of EU. Especially since they have done nothing to fulfill their pre referendum Scottish promises. The imperial preference days are over. That is a lesson the British need to learn. And a self inflicted wound will be the best way to do it. So either UK will be in EU as with all other or not at all. The current state of affairs as we are in…

Which pre referendum Scottish promises haven't been fulfilled?

Re: EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote

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I really hope for an exit. I just want to see what will happen with UK outside of EU. Especially since they have done nothing to fulfill their pre referendum Scottish promises. The imperial preference days are over. That is a lesson the British need to learn. And a self inflicted wound will be the best way to do it. So either UK will be in EU as with all other or not at all. The current state of affairs as we are in…

Which pre referendum Scottish promises haven't been fulfilled?

The greater autonomy of Scotland. Devolution max. There is barely something new done from what I read in the news

Re: EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote

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I really hope for an exit. I just want to see what will happen with UK outside of EU. Especially since they have done nothing to fulfill their pre referendum Scottish promises. The imperial preference days are over. That is a lesson the British need to learn. And a self inflicted wound will be the best way to do it. So either UK will be in EU as with all other or not at all. The current state of affairs as we are in…

That sounds like you're treating this as a game. Fact of the matter is, if we leave the EU, a whole bunch of minorities lose a whole bunch of human rights protections. When this happens, the ability to lead a life of any sort decreases and suicide rates increase.

The UK being "kinda-sorta part of the EU" is not a wonderful thing, but being out of it entirely would be far worse for real people. Fight for more integration with the EU if that's your thing.

I'll note that Scotland would likely become independent and join the EU a few years after a British EU exit, but there's plenty of English, Welsh and Northern Irish people who'd get stuck.

Re: EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote

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I really hope for an exit. I just want to see what will happen with UK outside of EU. Especially since they have done nothing to fulfill their pre referendum Scottish promises. The imperial preference days are over. That is a lesson the British need to learn. And a self inflicted wound will be the best way to do it. So either UK will be in EU as with all other or not at all. The current state of affairs as we are in…

I'm a Brit living in Germany. A vote to leave the EU is likely to mean that I will need to apply for a work visa to stay here. It is more than likely going to cause me a major pain in the arse.

On the other hand I'm tempted to have the anti-EU Brits win and let them see what a disaster that will be for the UK, shutting them up once and for all. Then have them come back with their tails between their legs asking to be let back in.

Reality is that the result will depend on the major newspapers bias, namely Mr Rupert Murdoch. He is traditionally anti-EU, but that has previously been based on back room deals with different political parties promising him one thing or another. Since his fall from grace his power has been somewhat diminished, do it will be interesting to see how the press play this out.

Re: EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote

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I really hope for an exit. I just want to see what will happen with UK outside of EU. Especially since they have done nothing to fulfill their pre referendum Scottish promises. The imperial preference days are over. That is a lesson the British need to learn. And a self inflicted wound will be the best way to do it. So either UK will be in EU as with all other or not at all. The current state of affairs as we are in…

The hold up is in negotiations from what I've read. Also the house of lords isn't too comfortable with the bill either.

Re: EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote

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post #7

I really hope for an exit. I just want to see what will happen with UK outside of EU. Especially since they have done nothing to fulfill their pre referendum Scottish promises. The imperial preference days are over. That is a lesson the British need to learn. And a self inflicted wound will be the best way to do it. So either UK will be in EU as with all other or not at all. The current state of affairs as we are in…

I'm a Brit living in Germany. A vote to leave the EU is likely to mean that I will need to apply for a work visa to stay here. It is more than likely going to cause me a major pain in the arse. On the other hand I'm tempted to have the anti-EU Brits win and let them see what a disaster that will be for the UK, shutting them up once and for all. Then have them come back with their tails between their legs asking to be…

Also, don't forget that:

> It’s a peculiarity of this referendum that Commonwealth citizens may vote in it, whereas French, Italians and Germans who have lived here for many years, and are much more directly affected, may not.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/20/how-to-...

Re: EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote

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Worth noting this is only happening because the British electoral system is broken.

A small anti-EU, right-wing party could have stolen just enough votes on this issue to turn the tide on the two party system result due to the brain damage of first-past-the-post[1], so the main right-wing party started this hare-brained scheme in motion to head that off.

This, in a nation where PR and full democracy is derided because... well actually mostly because the status quo benefits the powerful and well connected.

Footnote 1: just struck me what a misleading name this is. I've never seen a horse race where a horse with a similar color Jersey to you going faster, can slow you down.

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