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DiY Fiber Optic Light Using ESP8266

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Re: DiY Fiber Optic Light Using ESP8266

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Not Phillips hue related at all; it's like you have no idea how Philips hue works. It's a diy wifi bulb plain and simple.

You're right that the submitted title ("Philips Hue Fiber Optic Light Using ESP8266") was misleading, since the blog post makes clear it's a clone. But your comment would be a lot more valuable if it dropped the personal swipe ("it's like you have no idea") and taught us specifically why. As it stands, it's just an acerbic dismissal, and that makes for a poor HN comment, especially when the target is someone's work.

Re: DiY Fiber Optic Light Using ESP8266

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post #4

Not Phillips hue related at all; it's like you have no idea how Philips hue works. It's a diy wifi bulb plain and simple.

You're right that the submitted title ("Philips Hue Fiber Optic Light Using ESP8266") was misleading, since the blog post makes clear it's a clone. But your comment would be a lot more valuable if it dropped the personal swipe ("it's like you have no idea") and taught us specifically why . As it stands, it's just an acerbic dismissal, and that makes for a poor HN comment, especially when the target is someone's work.

got similar feedback on reddit too https://www.reddit.com/r/arduino/comments/40w7et/philips_hue...

I can see how people can get worked up over this. Here's what I replied over there:

Thanks for pointing that out. I agree that from a technical standpoint this is not the same as a Philips Hue bulb or light strip. If you look at it from a users point of view, all Philips Hue is a lamp that you control the Brightness and Hue of. This gives you that functionality. No Zigbee protocol. True, but in the context of HomeKit/HAP-NodeJS, does it matter how the bridge talks to the light? I might as well be using 433MHz transceivers, nRFs, or directly controlling the Raspberry Pi's GPIOs. For that matter, ZigBee would be doable too, but I don't know enough about the protocol to see it's benefits. No smart mesh network where each device extends your coverage. True, but a mesh network can be implemented with ESP8266. But if my whole house has WiFi, I don't see the point. No possible compatibility with either Phillips' Hue bridge, Hue remotes, or any other kind of Hue hardware (like Phillips' Hue+Ambilight TV's). Actually, using the Philips Hue shim in Homebridge, I believe it should be possible to make it compatible to Hue bridge. My motivation behind making this was to prove that with ESP8266 based projects, you don't need to have a clunky web UI or a custom app. This lamp can be controlled with any app that support HomeKit. Philips Hue was just the most similar commercial product I could think of. Btw, HAP-nodeJS can be completely eliminated here by using nRF51/52 BTLE chips. They can emulate the HomeKit API and control the NeoPixels both in one chip, so no bridge necessary!

Re: DiY Fiber Optic Light Using ESP8266

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post #4

Not Phillips hue related at all; it's like you have no idea how Philips hue works. It's a diy wifi bulb plain and simple.

You're right that the submitted title ("Philips Hue Fiber Optic Light Using ESP8266") was misleading, since the blog post makes clear it's a clone. But your comment would be a lot more valuable if it dropped the personal swipe ("it's like you have no idea") and taught us specifically why . As it stands, it's just an acerbic dismissal, and that makes for a poor HN comment, especially when the target is someone's work.

Also, I find it strange they felt so strongly about the whole thing that they created an account just to comment.

Re: DiY Fiber Optic Light Using ESP8266

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post #6
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right that the submitted title ("Philips Hue Fiber Optic Light Using ESP8266") was misleading, since the blog post makes clear it's a clone. But your comment would be a lot more valuable if it dropped the personal swipe ("it's like you have no idea") and taught us specifically why . As it stands, it's just an acerbic dismissal, and that makes for a poor HN comment, especially when the target is someone's work.

Also, I find it strange they felt so strongly about the whole thing that they created an account just to comment.

HN users are often passionate about correctness, which is a fine thing, but it's best if they share their knowledge with the rest of us.

Re: DiY Fiber Optic Light Using ESP8266

#8

Not Phillips hue related at all; it's like you have no idea how Philips hue works. It's a diy wifi bulb plain and simple.

Even though, /u/dang is correct, but I agree with you.

IMHO it's just more catchy and click-baity title, that's all (and you can down-vote me for this, but I genuinely believe author's intention was to simply catch more attention with such title). We can not start calling every electric car 'Tesla clone', every smartphone 'iPhone clone' etc. To escalate this discussion more author, in a true click-baity fashion, could have added word 'hack' somewhere in the title.

Just to rant, but lately in HN you can see rather a lot of articles, whose titles do not represent the content correctly (hopefully, like in this case, HN thread name is more correct than the article's title), which catch your eye by using some trendy trademark or word (like 'hack').

All in all, titles and use of words is a delicate discussion, which can be seen in many threads of HN.

Re: DiY Fiber Optic Light Using ESP8266

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post #8

Not Phillips hue related at all; it's like you have no idea how Philips hue works. It's a diy wifi bulb plain and simple.

Even though, /u/dang is correct, but I agree with you. IMHO it's just more catchy and click-baity title, that's all (and you can down-vote me for this, but I genuinely believe author's intention was to simply catch more attention with such title). We can not start calling every electric car 'Tesla clone', every smartphone 'iPhone clone' etc. To escalate this discussion more author, in a true click-baity fashion, coul…

That's exactly what it is. His previous ESP8266 related posts didn't get any love, and presumably because of all the recent Hue chatter decided to take advantage of the name by hinting of a cool new accessory joining the Hue lineup. I must admit it caught my attention but I knew something was off immediate after seeing ESP8266 and Hue in the same title.
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