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Python moves to GitHub

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Re: Python moves to GitHub

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GitHub's reign over public open source programming is a bit terrifying. But, it's been mostly benevolent so far, but I do find it troubling to trust a private company to keep dev's in mind, and not profit.

Re: Python moves to GitHub

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GitHub's reign over public open source programming is a bit terrifying. But, it's been mostly benevolent so far, but I do find it troubling to trust a private company to keep dev's in mind, and not profit.

The good news is that it is straightforward to make a copy of much of the important public data on GH.

Re: Python moves to GitHub

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GitHub's reign over public open source programming is a bit terrifying. But, it's been mostly benevolent so far, but I do find it troubling to trust a private company to keep dev's in mind, and not profit.

I'm not sure why it's a problem though. If they decide to go down that path, it's not that hard to move off. They don't have the lock-in that would scare me like having terabytes of data in an oracle database.

Re: Python moves to GitHub

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this is pretty significant; so far the only git presence of Python was a "semi-official readonly mirror" on github: https://github.com/python/cpython

now does this mean that Python will completely switch away from Mercurial? this was one of the major projects still using hg

what does this mean for mercurial's global adoption vs git?

also, i don't understand why the free software aspect of gitlab wasn't an important argument in the decision... that seems like a key element of the difference between the two platforms.

Re: Python moves to GitHub

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post #4

GitHub's reign over public open source programming is a bit terrifying. But, it's been mostly benevolent so far, but I do find it troubling to trust a private company to keep dev's in mind, and not profit.

I'm not sure why it's a problem though. If they decide to go down that path, it's not that hard to move off. They don't have the lock-in that would scare me like having terabytes of data in an oracle database.

The problem is with people's mindset that everything has to be on github. Large projects that dare to use self-hosted more fitting infrastructure like Phabricator tend to be punished socially.

Re: Python moves to GitHub

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post #4

GitHub's reign over public open source programming is a bit terrifying. But, it's been mostly benevolent so far, but I do find it troubling to trust a private company to keep dev's in mind, and not profit.

I'm not sure why it's a problem though. If they decide to go down that path, it's not that hard to move off. They don't have the lock-in that would scare me like having terabytes of data in an oracle database.

Without competition they don't really have much of an incentive to improve.

Re: Python moves to GitHub

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I'm not sure why it's a problem though. If they decide to go down that path, it's not that hard to move off. They don't have the lock-in that would scare me like having terabytes of data in an oracle database.

The problem is with people's mindset that everything has to be on github. Large projects that dare to use self-hosted more fitting infrastructure like Phabricator tend to be punished socially.

I suspect what you're seeing as social punishment is people preferring the UX GitHub offers. That's just user choice in action

Re: Python moves to GitHub

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Everyone is moving to GitHub these days. Why doesn't Gitlab.com get more love? Isn't their whole stack open source?

Gitlab is really nice, but the user experience isn't quite as slick as Github's. Understandable, since Github has a lot more engineers behind their infrastructure.

I think Gitlab's current user base is for developers/startups who want VC backups for their private codebases. I'd probably use Gitlab if I were developing a private project that I didn't plan on releasing.

Github, by design, is friendly towards people who want their code to be open to the world and encourage exploration of interesting projects. It's a great for sharing research code, and many big companies (Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Mozilla, Disney, Pixar) already put their stuff there. It's highly unlikely these big fishes will move to Gitlab anytime soon.

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