Gujarati Capitalism: Going Global
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Gujarati Capitalism: Going Global
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Re: Gujarati Capitalism: Going Global
#2Here's the problem: once you allow ascribing a particular laudatory quality to a certain group, you HAVE to concede that certain groups have bad qualities. That is, unless group qualities are only good, a claim for which there is no evidence whatsoever.
So... Gujaratis have an ethic of capitalistic success. Are you also comfortable saying Blacks have an ethic of failure, Jews have an ethic of in-group morality, Gypsies have an ethic of stealing, and so on? If you are not, then you are arbitrarily imposing a limit that qualities assigned to a group must only be good. If you are, congratulations! You are now racist.
Re: Gujarati Capitalism: Going Global
#3Here's the problem: once you allow ascribing a particular laudatory quality to a certain group, you HAVE to concede that certain groups have bad qualities. That is, unless group qualities are only good, a claim for which there is no evidence whatsoever. So... Gujaratis have an ethic of capitalistic success. Are you also comfortable saying Blacks have an ethic of failure, Jews have an ethic of in-group morality, Gypsi…
Your argument is basically slippery slope.
The article merely documents the entrepreneurial genius of the Gujarati community which is worth lauding. Gujarati is not a race.
Re: Gujarati Capitalism: Going Global
#4Here's the problem: once you allow ascribing a particular laudatory quality to a certain group, you HAVE to concede that certain groups have bad qualities. That is, unless group qualities are only good, a claim for which there is no evidence whatsoever. So... Gujaratis have an ethic of capitalistic success. Are you also comfortable saying Blacks have an ethic of failure, Jews have an ethic of in-group morality, Gypsi…
Gujaratis are not a race or religion, it's you who are taking things to racial level
Re: Gujarati Capitalism: Going Global
#5Here's the problem: once you allow ascribing a particular laudatory quality to a certain group, you HAVE to concede that certain groups have bad qualities. That is, unless group qualities are only good, a claim for which there is no evidence whatsoever. So... Gujaratis have an ethic of capitalistic success. Are you also comfortable saying Blacks have an ethic of failure, Jews have an ethic of in-group morality, Gypsi…
Gujaratis are not a race or religion, it's you who are taking things to racial level
They're an ethnicity, yes. But you get my point. Native Americans are an ethnicity, but criticizing them as a group is looked down upon pretty heavily.
Re: Gujarati Capitalism: Going Global
#6Here's the problem: once you allow ascribing a particular laudatory quality to a certain group, you HAVE to concede that certain groups have bad qualities. That is, unless group qualities are only good, a claim for which there is no evidence whatsoever. So... Gujaratis have an ethic of capitalistic success. Are you also comfortable saying Blacks have an ethic of failure, Jews have an ethic of in-group morality, Gypsi…
Of course cultures have attributes - that's what defines them as a separate culture. Not everybody around the world is the same. That would be PC blather. Folks are different, and we can celebrate that.
Re: Gujarati Capitalism: Going Global
#7Here's the problem: once you allow ascribing a particular laudatory quality to a certain group, you HAVE to concede that certain groups have bad qualities. That is, unless group qualities are only good, a claim for which there is no evidence whatsoever. So... Gujaratis have an ethic of capitalistic success. Are you also comfortable saying Blacks have an ethic of failure, Jews have an ethic of in-group morality, Gypsi…
Your argument is basically slippery slope. The article merely documents the entrepreneurial genius of the Gujarati community which is worth lauding. Gujarati is not a race.
The article itself contains formulations like "Like the Jews, Chinese, English, Scots and Lebanese, they have come to form an impressive global commercial network.", suggesting that this about more than just the community. At the very least, it must be the values that matter. And once you acknowledge that some sets of values are preferable to others, and that different religions come with different values, you are already very close to sliding down the slippery slope from the original comment.
Re: Gujarati Capitalism: Going Global
#8Here's the problem: once you allow ascribing a particular laudatory quality to a certain group, you HAVE to concede that certain groups have bad qualities. That is, unless group qualities are only good, a claim for which there is no evidence whatsoever. So... Gujaratis have an ethic of capitalistic success. Are you also comfortable saying Blacks have an ethic of failure, Jews have an ethic of in-group morality, Gypsi…
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#9I am reading this sipping dunkin donuts coffee made by gujarati lady.
Re: Gujarati Capitalism: Going Global
#10I'm a Gujarati. My ancestors established businesses in most British colonies at the time, from Ceylon to Hong Kong, from Siam to Réunion, from Australia to the Suez, from Kenya to Rangoon. Our family names are based on places where our dad worked for a living. For instance, my mother's family name is Siamwala (an indicator that my grand dad and his family were involved in international trade based in Thailand).
This article seems more like PR but isn't far from truth. I think, as a community, Jews have probably outdone any one community out there.
In fact, a great many jewish business families in British-India adopted Gujarat, and spoke Gujarati.
Here's another biased take on the topic by a Pakistani journalist:
http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/WaBCEddMLH5DaM0aD5wzbN/Why-I...
And here my answer on Quora on a related question: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Gujarati-people-make-up-a-large...