New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
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Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#2This probably goes against popular HN opinion, but good. I'm glad. He's a scumbag who profited TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS off content that he knew to be copyright infringing. He deserves prison time.
Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#3This probably goes against popular HN opinion, but good. I'm glad. He's a scumbag who profited TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS off content that he knew to be copyright infringing. He deserves prison time.
What are your views on how it relates to the sovereignty of a nation?
Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#4This probably goes against popular HN opinion, but good. I'm glad. He's a scumbag who profited TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS off content that he knew to be copyright infringing. He deserves prison time.
What are your views on how it relates to the sovereignty of a nation?
New Zealand is a sovereign nation. One that has laws which established residency for Kim Dotcom. And one that has signed international treaties with other sovereign nations. New Zealand has used their own judicial system to reach this decision. They are behaving in accordance to their own laws and agreements they were willing participants to.
In short, there's nothing wrong here. Not in the slightest.
Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are your views on how it relates to the sovereignty of a nation?
New Zealand is a sovereign nation. One that has laws which established residency for Kim Dotcom. And one that has signed international treaties with other sovereign nations. New Zealand has used their own judicial system to reach this decision. They are behaving in accordance to their own laws and agreements they were willing participants to. In short, there's nothing wrong here. Not in the slightest.
Don't conflate lawful/unlawful with right/wrong -- it always leads to incoherent positions.
Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#6This probably goes against popular HN opinion, but good. I'm glad. He's a scumbag who profited TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS off content that he knew to be copyright infringing. He deserves prison time.
I don't believe copyright infringement should be extraditable.
Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#7This just feels like a waste of taxpayer money, is Kim Dotcom worth extraditing?
Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
New Zealand is a sovereign nation. One that has laws which established residency for Kim Dotcom. And one that has signed international treaties with other sovereign nations. New Zealand has used their own judicial system to reach this decision. They are behaving in accordance to their own laws and agreements they were willing participants to. In short, there's nothing wrong here. Not in the slightest.
Don't conflate lawful/unlawful with right/wrong -- it always leads to incoherent positions.
I've not.
Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#9This probably goes against popular HN opinion, but good. I'm glad. He's a scumbag who profited TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS off content that he knew to be copyright infringing. He deserves prison time.
What are your views on how it relates to the sovereignty of a nation?
The name for the concern about infringement upon sovereignty by arresting a citizen, in this case, in another state is "extraterritoriality".
There is a presumption against extraterritoriality. In other words, it is presumed that in a sovereign state the laws of other sovereigns do not apply.
The exception to the presumption against extraterritoriality is agreement among states or a reciprocal judicial respect. The agreement is usually a treaty. The reciprocal respect is called "comity".
There are other exceptions to the presumption against extraterritoriality, but I do not think they apply here.
I have not looked at the details, but New Zealand and the U.S.A. must have an extradition treaty or otherwise the judge determining extradition believes that the judicial system in the U.S.A. is "comparable" (i.e. comity applies).
The case looks appealable. So long as the independence of the judiciary is not impugned, neither is the sovereignty of New Zealand, and they may extradite as they feel fit.
Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#10This probably goes against popular HN opinion, but good. I'm glad. He's a scumbag who profited TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS off content that he knew to be copyright infringing. He deserves prison time.
Should be locked up next door to the guys that started YouTube.