Donate mozilla

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Post by swcoders » Mon, Nov 30, 2015, 10:20 AM UTC

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by FooBarWidget » Mon, Nov 30, 2015, 1:22 PM UTC

Their FAQ (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Donate#Don.27t_Mozilla_products.2C_...) contains pretty important information.

In particular, it answers why one should donate when Mozilla Corp makes money through corporate deals (e.g. Google and Yahoo search commissions). The answer is that all the money Mozilla Corp makes is reinvested back into Mozilla Corp (salaries etc). The Mozilla Foundation -- a non-profit which wholly owns Mozilla Corp -- is not funded by Mozilla Corp, but relies entirely on donations. Mozilla Foundations is responsible for philantropic education and awareness campaigns.

So this link is not about donating to Mozilla Corp, where the bulk of Firefox development happens. It's about donating to Mozilla Foundation.

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by callesgg » Mon, Nov 30, 2015, 1:25 PM UTC

While i do think mozilla is great, firefox is my main browser and i am following the servo project.

Just recently we had this article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10630996

edit: @FooBarWidget had a good answer

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Nov 30, 2015, 1:26 PM UTC

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Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by melling » Mon, Nov 30, 2015, 2:13 PM UTC

FooBarWidget wrote: post #2

Their FAQ ( https://wiki.mozilla.org/Donate#Don.27t_Mozilla_products.2C_... ) contains pretty important information. In particular, it answers why one should donate when Mozilla Corp makes money through corporate deals (e.g. Google and Yahoo search commissions). The answer is that all the money Mozilla Corp makes is reinvested back into Mozilla Corp (salaries etc). The Mozilla Foundation -- a non-profit which wholly…

Less than a week ago Mozilla said they don't need the millions from Google.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10630996

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by richardboegli » Mon, Nov 30, 2015, 2:18 PM UTC

melling wrote: post #5

FooBarWidget wrote: post #2

Their FAQ ( https://wiki.mozilla.org/Donate#Don.27t_Mozilla_products.2C_... ) contains pretty important information. In particular, it answers why one should donate when Mozilla Corp makes money through corporate deals (e.g. Google and Yahoo search commissions). The answer is that all the money Mozilla Corp makes is reinvested back into Mozilla Corp (salaries etc). The Mozilla Foundation -- a non-profit which wholly…

Less than a week ago Mozilla said they don't need the millions from Google. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10630996

You just beat me to this :)

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by richardboegli » Mon, Nov 30, 2015, 2:19 PM UTC

callesgg wrote: post #3

While i do think mozilla is great, firefox is my main browser and i am following the servo project. Just recently we had this article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10630996 edit: @FooBarWidget had a good answer

OK you beat both melling and myself by an hour....

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by amooiman » Mon, Nov 30, 2015, 2:21 PM UTC

melling wrote: post #5

FooBarWidget wrote: post #2

Their FAQ ( https://wiki.mozilla.org/Donate#Don.27t_Mozilla_products.2C_... ) contains pretty important information. In particular, it answers why one should donate when Mozilla Corp makes money through corporate deals (e.g. Google and Yahoo search commissions). The answer is that all the money Mozilla Corp makes is reinvested back into Mozilla Corp (salaries etc). The Mozilla Foundation -- a non-profit which wholly…

Less than a week ago Mozilla said they don't need the millions from Google. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10630996

As @FooBarWidget says, this is about donating to the Mozilla Foundation, not the Corporation (which builds Firefox products). I'm an employee at the Foundation, and these donations help us keep running and working towards our mission, backed by these principles: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by amooiman » Mon, Nov 30, 2015, 2:26 PM UTC

FooBarWidget wrote: post #2

Their FAQ ( https://wiki.mozilla.org/Donate#Don.27t_Mozilla_products.2C_... ) contains pretty important information. In particular, it answers why one should donate when Mozilla Corp makes money through corporate deals (e.g. Google and Yahoo search commissions). The answer is that all the money Mozilla Corp makes is reinvested back into Mozilla Corp (salaries etc). The Mozilla Foundation -- a non-profit which wholly…

This is exactly right. I'm an engineer at the non-profit Mozilla Foundation, and these donations keep us working towards our mission (found at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/details/).

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by SFjulie1 » Mon, Nov 30, 2015, 2:27 PM UTC

well, donating to mozilla and not openSSL, freeBSD does not make a better internet.

Nowadays we have strictly NO LTS free/open source portable build chain of decent quality (compiler, linkers). (maybe also because of the norms)

When I say LTS compiler, I mean a compiler that can portably and reproducibly build code in C without flags on the CLI to the same exec and without developers having to archive their compiler every time compile to be sure to be able to build it once again with the same results.

You think this situation is not yet existing?

Hu hu hu hu hu ...

Houston, you have a problem.

Even though I appreciate LLVM/GCC, LLVM/GCC new major release may imply to patch specifically the C code for the $CC release.

And Ox flags may give weird unexpected results per compiler. And you may nowadays need GCC for some platform with specific code, and LLVM for others.

So how do we handle this complexity? The C code is less and less idempotent in time and architecture and performance...

How do we fully support long time support for reproducible multi platform build ?