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Re: First Timers Only

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... and this is a prime example of the "developer ergonomics" v. "end-user needs" trade-off that was being discussed a few days ago re: web frameworks.

I mean, it's very well possible that the long-term investment in expanding the "base" of willing coders is worth the short-term loss in productivity. But even long-term investments in human capital need better planning than just "hey, I bet a high-schooler could deal with this simple accounting spreadsheet; that would train him even if it takes him a day to fix what I can fix in ten minutes". It's fine investing in high-schoolers, sure, but that's not the point.

Re: First Timers Only

#3

... and this is a prime example of the "developer ergonomics" v. "end-user needs" trade-off that was being discussed a few days ago re: web frameworks. I mean, it's very well possible that the long-term investment in expanding the "base" of willing coders is worth the short-term loss in productivity. But even long-term investments in human capital need better planning than just "hey, I bet a high-schooler could deal…

What is the point?

Re: First Timers Only

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post #3

... and this is a prime example of the "developer ergonomics" v. "end-user needs" trade-off that was being discussed a few days ago re: web frameworks. I mean, it's very well possible that the long-term investment in expanding the "base" of willing coders is worth the short-term loss in productivity. But even long-term investments in human capital need better planning than just "hey, I bet a high-schooler could deal…

What is the point?

The point is that the tradeoff between making things at optimal productivity and using thing-making as an educational opportunity exists.

The OP's initiative may come at an excellent cost-benefit price, but it's questionable whether they even considered the tradeoff. And if they have, it's still important to discuss it if it comes to an internet forum.

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the point?

The point is that the tradeoff between making things at optimal productivity and using thing-making as an educational opportunity exists. The OP's initiative may come at an excellent cost-benefit price, but it's questionable whether they even considered the tradeoff. And if they have, it's still important to discuss it if it comes to an internet forum.

He already had the implementation ready, but choose to not push it to github in order to encourrage participation.

Clearly, productivity was not a priority.

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the point?

The point is that the tradeoff between making things at optimal productivity and using thing-making as an educational opportunity exists. The OP's initiative may come at an excellent cost-benefit price, but it's questionable whether they even considered the tradeoff. And if they have, it's still important to discuss it if it comes to an internet forum.

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Re: First Timers Only

#8
similar :

Mozilla "Mentor Bugs If you are looking for a bug with guidance, we maintain a set of bugs that are marked with an assigned mentor (see "Whiteboard" field). The mentor will help you get the necessary information to understand the issue, point out relevant parts of the code to look at, etc. You can browse these bugs on Bugs Ahoy!, but here's a list of unassigned mentor bugs to get you started:"

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Get_Involved#Mentor_Bugs

Other examples:

#easyfix: https://github.com/facebook/flow/labels/easyfix

#beginner: https://github.com/eslint/eslint/labels/beginner

#exp:beginner https://github.com/docker/docker/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aiss...

Re: First Timers Only

#9
Mentorship in OSS makes everyone involved a little bit better at something, be it following instructions, learning practical tooling, writing clear instructions, justification of process and habits, etc.

Re: First Timers Only

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post #8

similar : Mozilla "Mentor Bugs If you are looking for a bug with guidance, we maintain a set of bugs that are marked with an assigned mentor (see "Whiteboard" field). The mentor will help you get the necessary information to understand the issue, point out relevant parts of the code to look at, etc. You can browse these bugs on Bugs Ahoy!, but here's a list of unassigned mentor bugs to get you started:" https://wiki.…

> Other examples:

Rust has E-easy and E-mentor

https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/labels/E-easy

https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/labels/E-mentor

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