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Re: Ok Go on Why Labels Won't Let You Embed YouTube Videos

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Summary: because YouTube pays the labels part of the ad revenue for videos played on youtube.com, but not for embedded videos.

That is a summary of why you can't embed the video but I'd still encourage people to read the full post if they want a more thorough analysis of the state of the music industry today.

Re: Ok Go on Why Labels Won't Let You Embed YouTube Videos

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FTFA "So the money that used to flow through the music business has slowed to a trickle"

I'd like to call that a "mis-speak"

"The digital music business internationally saw a sixth year of expansion in 2008, growing by an estimated 25 per cent to US$3.7 billion in trade value. Digital platforms now account for around 20 per cent of recorded music sales." [1]

Which makes music sales of US$18 billion for 2008 by contrast the revenue for the top 20 countries in 2005 was $12b [2]

"PRS for Music, the organisation representing songwriters, composers and music publishers, today published new research showing that UK music industry revenues totalled £3.63bn in 2008, up 4.7% from 2007’s £3.46bn." [3]

Some fucking trickle

[1] http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_resources/dmr2009.html

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_industry#Statistics

[3] http://www.prsformusic.com/aboutus/press/latestpressreleases...

Re: Ok Go on Why Labels Won't Let You Embed YouTube Videos

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This is also extremely interesting because OK Go was one of the bands that was able to tap into viral video as a way of getting the word out there. Remember the video for Here It Goes Again? 50 million views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI

Re: Ok Go on Why Labels Won't Let You Embed YouTube Videos

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post #5

FTFA "So the money that used to flow through the music business has slowed to a trickle" I'd like to call that a "mis-speak" "The digital music business internationally saw a sixth year of expansion in 2008, growing by an estimated 25 per cent to US$3.7 billion in trade value. Digital platforms now account for around 20 per cent of recorded music sales." [1] Which makes music sales of US$18 billion for 2008 by contra…

To be fair, I bet the money that flows down to them has slowed to a trickle.

Re: Ok Go on Why Labels Won't Let You Embed YouTube Videos

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post #4

is it possible to do some kind of javascript/iframe hackery to make embedding work?

You maybe can come up with a technical solution, but the point is that it's not permitted. The article itself offers a solution to the problem of embedding (offering the video through a different website).

The article raises more interesting issues than this, however, such as why it's not allowed in the first place, and what needs to change to make it allowed.

Re: Ok Go on Why Labels Won't Let You Embed YouTube Videos

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Question: Does MTV pay the record labels for showing their videos? I'm not being a smart-ass, I'm really asking and didn't want to rip into this without having some background.\

The article says that they used to consider MTV a promotional partner, do they still?

Re: Ok Go on Why Labels Won't Let You Embed YouTube Videos

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FTFA "So the money that used to flow through the music business has slowed to a trickle" I'd like to call that a "mis-speak" "The digital music business internationally saw a sixth year of expansion in 2008, growing by an estimated 25 per cent to US$3.7 billion in trade value. Digital platforms now account for around 20 per cent of recorded music sales." [1] Which makes music sales of US$18 billion for 2008 by contra…

Not saying this is authoritative but your numbers don't jive too well with this Wikipedia quote:

"In the 21st century, consumers spent far less money on recorded music than they had in 1990s, in all formats. Total revenues for CDs, vinyl, cassettes and digital downloads in the U.S. dropped from a high of $14.6 billion in 1999 to $10.4 billion in 2008. The downward trend is expected to continue for the foreseeable future—Forrester Research predicts that by 2013, revenues will reach as low as $9.2 billion.[5] This dramatic decline in revenue has caused large scale layoffs inside the industry, driven music retailers out of business (such as Tower Records) and forced record companies, record producers, studios, recording engineers and musicians to seek new business models.[6]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_industry#2000s

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