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Indonesia's palm oil fires emitted more greenhouse gases in a day than the U.S.

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Re: Indonesia's palm oil fires emitted more greenhouse gases in a day than the U.S.

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This is why I don't buy into cap and trade and other expensive systems for the US to reduce its emissions. Compared to emerging economies, our emissions are already dramatically lower. It's the 2nd and 3rd world that needs to get in line (China most of all).

Re: Indonesia's palm oil fires emitted more greenhouse gases in a day than the U.S.

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My SO is in Singapore, and she complains almost everyday about the smog.

While we in the US and other 1st worlders could do much to stem our pollution especially given our ability, the fight against climate change has to be a global fight, and not just the acts of a few willing nations.

Re: Indonesia's palm oil fires emitted more greenhouse gases in a day than the U.S.

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This is why I don't buy into cap and trade and other expensive systems for the US to reduce its emissions. Compared to emerging economies, our emissions are already dramatically lower. It's the 2nd and 3rd world that needs to get in line (China most of all).

Yes, it would be terrible if we did all that work to improve the atmosphere for nothing.

http://i.imgur.com/kUCPeBo.jpg

Re: Indonesia's palm oil fires emitted more greenhouse gases in a day than the U.S.

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This is why I don't buy into cap and trade and other expensive systems for the US to reduce its emissions. Compared to emerging economies, our emissions are already dramatically lower. It's the 2nd and 3rd world that needs to get in line (China most of all).

Yes, it would be terrible if we did all that work to improve the atmosphere for nothing. http://i.imgur.com/kUCPeBo.jpg

Amazing- I've been looking for this image for years, sums it up perfectly!

Re: Indonesia's palm oil fires emitted more greenhouse gases in a day than the U.S.

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This is why I don't buy into cap and trade and other expensive systems for the US to reduce its emissions. Compared to emerging economies, our emissions are already dramatically lower. It's the 2nd and 3rd world that needs to get in line (China most of all).

Well, US just burns off some crazy amount of natural gas that is released as the byproduct of oil drilling/fracking. It's not captured because it's too cheap to be worth it. 10 billion cubic feet in a month[1], just because it's "not worth it". So maybe,actually, US needs more caps and expensive systems to curb such behaviour?

[1]http://www.wsj.com/articles/north-dakotas-latest-fracking-pr...

Re: Indonesia's palm oil fires emitted more greenhouse gases in a day than the U.S.

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palm oil is a terrible, terrible thing. If you have travelled at all to central america or asia, you know what i mean. (ok yes, you got me... traveling to asia isn't so hot for the environment either)

Wherever you think a jungle should be, you see palm trees. As far as the eye can see.

If you care about this. And you probably should. Then have a look at the ingredient list & don't buy products with palm oil.

Re: Indonesia's palm oil fires emitted more greenhouse gases in a day than the U.S.

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This is why I don't buy into cap and trade and other expensive systems for the US to reduce its emissions. Compared to emerging economies, our emissions are already dramatically lower. It's the 2nd and 3rd world that needs to get in line (China most of all).

The fact that other people are messing up doesn't mean that you should as well. Everyone should take responsibility for their own actions.

Re: Indonesia's palm oil fires emitted more greenhouse gases in a day than the U.S.

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This is why I don't buy into cap and trade and other expensive systems for the US to reduce its emissions. Compared to emerging economies, our emissions are already dramatically lower. It's the 2nd and 3rd world that needs to get in line (China most of all).

Yep. Like the WWII Japanese General said :

"Just went we learn to play poker they change the game to bridge."

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