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Google Wins Appeals Court Approval of Book-Scanning Project

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Re: Google Wins Appeals Court Approval of Book-Scanning Project

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It's good that this news report includes a citation to the case decision at the end of the article. That citation is

Authors Guild v. Google Inc., 13-4829, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (Manhattan)

The ruling applies, of course, only to the United States, and only if it is not reversed by the United States Supreme Court. But I think the argument that Google's use of the book content is not market-destroying for book authors is correct, as I have bought books after discovering them through Google Books searches.

Re: Google Wins Appeals Court Approval of Book-Scanning Project

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I hope this is not too off-topic but since we are talking about book-scanning, how would I go about scanning my own books for private use?

For instance, if I have a bunch of books about drawing, I'd like to scan them all so that I later group all of the figure drawing pages in one folder, all the gesture drawing pages on another, etc, so they can be more easily used (and more useful) as reference.

Does anyone here recommend a way to scan books at home? I'm not against buying a contraption.

Re: Google Wins Appeals Court Approval of Book-Scanning Project

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As a former librarian I say YES!

The typical librarian actually doesn't fight for the access of materials but fights to enforce copy right stricter than the copy right law even calls for. At my college I took down the sign that said "No Copying of Books" at the photo copier and I put in place the actual copy right law. I can't tell you how many visiting librarians were "shocked" I did that. Well we also allowed bottles of water and talking in all areas except the study rooms and areas that had doors, but that is another story.

Re: Google Wins Appeals Court Approval of Book-Scanning Project

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I wasn't able to find much info on the current status of these efforts. Has Google (and their university/library partners) continued over the last ten years? I was under the impression that Google had suspended scanning years ago - partly due to this lawsuit and partly due to a change in company focus.

Re: Google Wins Appeals Court Approval of Book-Scanning Project

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I hope this is not too off-topic but since we are talking about book-scanning, how would I go about scanning my own books for private use? For instance, if I have a bunch of books about drawing, I'd like to scan them all so that I later group all of the figure drawing pages in one folder, all the gesture drawing pages on another, etc, so they can be more easily used (and more useful) as reference. Does anyone here re…

Google developed a system called the "cheese grater" and open-sourced the plans / design:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JuoOaL11bw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lLL0mUZHwU https://code.google.com/p/linear-book-scanner/ http://linearbookscanner.org/

Re: Google Wins Appeals Court Approval of Book-Scanning Project

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post #4

As a former librarian I say YES! The typical librarian actually doesn't fight for the access of materials but fights to enforce copy right stricter than the copy right law even calls for. At my college I took down the sign that said "No Copying of Books" at the photo copier and I put in place the actual copy right law. I can't tell you how many visiting librarians were "shocked" I did that. Well we also allowed bottl…

First, thanks for being a librarian.

Second, I don't think traditional librarians know how quickly the end is coming. Libraries will still exist of course, possibly as makerspaces, possibly as community centers, but with collections like "Library Genesis" [+] and storage continually to plummet in price, in the next 5 years entire libraries could be carried in your pocket.

EDIT: I'm not saying librarians aren't necessary! Quite the contrary! I believe their roles are going to shift to be advisors and guides. I'm saying the idea of the library as a place to go get knowledge itself is going to tail off, since its available over the Internet Firehose.

[+] "Library Genesis is an online repository with over a million of user-contributed books and is the first project in history to offer everyone on the Internet free download of its entire book collection (as of this writing, about 15 Tb of data), together with the all metadata and code for webpages. The most popular earlier repositories, such as Gigapedia (later Library.nu), handled their upload and maintenance costs by selling advertising space to the pornographic and gambling industries. Legal action was initiated against them, and they were closed. News of the termination of Gigapedia/Library.nu strongly resonated in academic and book lovers’ circles and was even noted in the mainstream Internet media, just like other major world events. The decision by Library Genesis to share its resources has resulted in a network of identical sites (so-called mirrors) through the development of an entire range of Net services of metadata exchange and catalog maintenance, thus ensuring an exceptionally resistant survival architecture."

Re: Google Wins Appeals Court Approval of Book-Scanning Project

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As a former librarian I say YES! The typical librarian actually doesn't fight for the access of materials but fights to enforce copy right stricter than the copy right law even calls for. At my college I took down the sign that said "No Copying of Books" at the photo copier and I put in place the actual copy right law. I can't tell you how many visiting librarians were "shocked" I did that. Well we also allowed bottl…

Why does the typical librarian behave like that? I have noticed the same thing.

Is it as simple as wanting to be in control over information, i.e. some small personal power?

Re: Google Wins Appeals Court Approval of Book-Scanning Project

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As a former librarian I say YES! The typical librarian actually doesn't fight for the access of materials but fights to enforce copy right stricter than the copy right law even calls for. At my college I took down the sign that said "No Copying of Books" at the photo copier and I put in place the actual copy right law. I can't tell you how many visiting librarians were "shocked" I did that. Well we also allowed bottl…

Based on your experience, do you think this kind of attitude just typical of the sorts of folks who tend to be librarians, or is there some top-down reason for it?
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