Seattle, in Midst of Tech Boom, Tries to Keep Its Soul
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#21) The city of Seattle or the "west side". This area is increasingly dominated by Amazon, local startups and engineering offices for Bay Area companies like Facebook and Google.
2) The cities to the east of Lake Washington (Redmond, Bellevue, Kirkland) or the "east side". This is the domain of Microsoft, Expedia, Concur and a smaller set of startups.
Most of the intense change has occurred in Seattle and specifically in the South Lake Union area where Amazon is located. Yes, there has been change and growth elsewhere, but nothing that I would consider alarming.
I'm personally optimistic that Seattle will find a balance between growth and continuing to have an enviable culture and cost of living.
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#5I have lived in Seattle since 2009, first working at Microsoft and now working remotely for a Bay Area company. For people who aren't familiar with the Seattle area, it is cleaved into 2 parts: 1) The city of Seattle or the "west side". This area is increasingly dominated by Amazon, local startups and engineering offices for Bay Area companies like Facebook and Google. 2) The cities to the east of Lake Washington (Re…
Yes, tons of new development has happened in SLU, but that area wasn't much of an established neighborhood to live in before, so it doesn't bother me as much.
Seattle is quickly losing any remaining "grit" and that as someone who has always called it home that is seriously depressing. I'm in the Central District which to some degree feels more like a Capitol Hill (except with black people!) but I imagine it is only a matter of time before the condos invade here as well.
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#6While growing up in the Seattle area in the 70's & 80's, I always thought Seattle was the coolest city in the world. It's still fun for me to visit and I do miss the trees, lakes, and Mt. Rainier, but to me it has completely lost its charm. All that was once cool and unique has been monetized and whitewashed.
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#7We constantly hear about a desperate shortage of software engineers from tech companies, as well as talk of "six figure" salaries. But the median price for housing in SF is well over a million now, and if you're hoping to have kids and raise a family, trying to buy a SFH or 3br apartment, even in the remaining unfashionable and mildly blighted areas south of 280 (not really unsafe, but a bit depressing in spots, lots of dumping, garbage, paved over front yards with abandoned cars), even that you'll be lucky to get in for much less thank 900k unless the house needs a lot of work or is very small with no expansion possibilities. A shortage of young people who are willing to work for salaries too low to put down real roots is not a shortage of workers, it's a wage vs cost of living problem.
SF needs to build (certainly the bay area needs to build), but I don't see construction in the bay area as more than part of the solution. We will eventually have to accept that it isn't desirable or possible to cram all the programmers into a 7x7 grid and a narrow corridor down the peninsula.
Truth is, there are a lot of interesting old cities in the US that are pretty much neglected.
I thought Patti Smyth said it best:
"The Godmother of Punk recalled coming to New York in 1967 when she was broke and the city was "'down and out,' and you could get a cheap apartment and 'build a whole community of transvestites or artists or writers.'" But today, she says, "New York has closed itself off to the young and the struggling. But there are other cities. Detroit. Poughkeepsie. New York City has been taken away from you. So my advice is: Find a new city."
I don't think that it's realistic to expect a coordinated effort from the tech "industry", which doesn't really speak with one voice or have one opinion. Market forces may eventually create the change we'd like to see, but for now, the tech industry really has obtained a subsidy in the form of control over the immigration system that prevents these market forces from working as they should. The first step is to stop taking claims of a worker shortage seriously, and don't give tech companies a crutch that allows them to avoid making the adjustments that will help everyone in the long run (in other words, don't allow tech companies to control visas that force workers to work in San Francisco or the valley, make sure all members of the workforce are free to chose their job, field, educational and career path, and where they live, in response to market signals).
Just to be clear, as I have in the past, I feel positively about general immigration, I believe that immigrants must be free to choose their own path in live, including what they study, where they live, who they will work for.
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#8While growing up in the Seattle area in the 70's & 80's, I always thought Seattle was the coolest city in the world. It's still fun for me to visit and I do miss the trees, lakes, and Mt. Rainier, but to me it has completely lost its charm. All that was once cool and unique has been monetized and whitewashed.
Whitewashed? I think this is the most diverse Seattle has ever been. Just a smudge above Portland.
Like when congressional testimony whitewashes a friendly fire incident, it generally means that they are covering it up or making it look better.
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#9I get it, even in some neighborhoods in Philadelphia the same thing is happening. Although to a much lesser extent, but there is tension between locals and newcomers. I was initially sympathetic to the locals, but now it just seems people will complain about the change no matter what.
But you have no right to complain about this gentrification when you are operating newly built apartment complexes, charging a premium to tech workers. And then go on to say you have Amazon prime. Screw you, Owen.
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#10Seattle is not for young people. The dude pool is 2:1 in a market where beer is regularly 6.50 a pint.