Edward Snowden at IETF 93
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Edward Snowden at IETF 93
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Re: Edward Snowden at IETF 93
#2Currently this story has 108 points and zero comments. Are people literally scared to comment on Snowden stories?
Re: Edward Snowden at IETF 93
#3I like Snowden's final conclusion:
> if the internet and technology does become a danger to us in the future, it's our own fault because we decided not to participate and we let other groups and other influences to decide for us rather than being part of it [...]
Before that, he argues that more people should involve themselves more in the IETF and similar groups:
> [...] However, when you look at the IETF, they literally don't make a decision unless it's based on consensus. There are no requirements. There are no academic standards or qualifications that anybody has to meet before they can be involved in a working group. Literally, anyone can join, anyone can participate in the process, anyone can make themselves heard, anyone can influence the standards that we develop, put forth, and decide. [...] It's a more inclusive community than it ever has been before [...]
Re: Edward Snowden at IETF 93
#4Currently this story has 108 points and zero comments. Are people literally scared to comment on Snowden stories?
Give people some time to read. Also, what's the point in asking for HN comments? Just go read it and provide a good comment on your own!
Re: Edward Snowden at IETF 93
#5Currently this story has 108 points and zero comments. Are people literally scared to comment on Snowden stories?
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Re: Edward Snowden at IETF 93
#6Currently this story has 108 points and zero comments. Are people literally scared to comment on Snowden stories?
From what I've seen, it can take up to 45 minutes for a submission to get commented on after it arrives on the front-page. Which makes sense, since (most) people want to consume the material, do some thinking and write their (hopefully well-thought out) comments.
Re: Edward Snowden at IETF 93
#7Currently this story has 108 points and zero comments. Are people literally scared to comment on Snowden stories?
Give people some time to read. Also, what's the point in asking for HN comments? Just go read it and provide a good comment on your own!
Request for comments and the internet.
Re: Edward Snowden at IETF 93
#8Currently this story has 108 points and zero comments. Are people literally scared to comment on Snowden stories?
From what I've seen, it can take up to 45 minutes for a submission to get commented on after it arrives on the front-page. Which makes sense, since (most) people want to consume the material, do some thinking and write their (hopefully well-thought out) comments.
Seems like every comment in this thread is downvoted. Might be bots.
Re: Edward Snowden at IETF 93
#9Props to Mnot (or whoever did it) for providing links out of the transcript.
Re: Edward Snowden at IETF 93
#10I'm always struck by the strange cognitive dissonance US law has for corporate whistleblowers vs governmental whistleblowers. How can you recognize the value of one while dismissing the value of the other? It's not like a whistleblower defense is a get-out-of-jail-free card either, as you must prove that what you did was actually in the public interest. It's a shame that there's no movement for reform in this area, because ultimately it would be very interesting to see Snowden return to the US for a "fair trial" and see the public response (both within the US and globally) to the outcome.