Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
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Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
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Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
#2Signal still uses proprietary blob and uses google/apple service for notifications. Use molly.im instead which has solved these problems.
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
#3Signal still uses proprietary blob and uses google/apple service for notifications. Use molly.im instead which has solved these problems.
I tried it and it was fine while it worked, but eventually I had to go back to regular Signal because Molly's updates did not follow Signal's closely enough, and at some point the server code changed enough to where I was unable to use it for an unacceptable amount of time (after checking, it took them weeks to update). Something to keep in mind if you're not using a custom server.
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
#4Signal still uses proprietary blob and uses google/apple service for notifications. Use molly.im instead which has solved these problems.
Molly is a security-hardened Signal client only on Android for people unfamiliar. They went through a period of not updating (there were no security updates during that time afaict), but now releases should happen faster on top of Signal.
In Molly there's three options. Google Play Services, WebSocket, and UnifiedPush.
I use the WebSocket and Molly has used >1% of battery since the last full charge so it doesn't seem like play services would improve battery but maybe if I had more apps depending on it..
Google and Apple can't see the notification content but they can see metadata. If you want metadata privacy you should use SimpleX instead anyway.
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
#5Signal still uses proprietary blob and uses google/apple service for notifications. Use molly.im instead which has solved these problems.
I tried it and it was fine while it worked, but eventually I had to go back to regular Signal because Molly's updates did not follow Signal's closely enough, and at some point the server code changed enough to where I was unable to use it for an unacceptable amount of time (after checking, it took them weeks to update). Something to keep in mind if you're not using a custom server.
Maybe it's because I use Molly as a secondary device (my tablet) but I never had an issue where it didn't work for weeks.
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
#6Signal still uses proprietary blob and uses google/apple service for notifications. Use molly.im instead which has solved these problems.
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Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
#7Signal still uses proprietary blob and uses google/apple service for notifications. Use molly.im instead which has solved these problems.
Molly is a security-hardened Signal client only on Android for people unfamiliar. They went through a period of not updating (there were no security updates during that time afaict), but now releases should happen faster on top of Signal. In Molly there's three options. Google Play Services, WebSocket, and UnifiedPush. I use the WebSocket and Molly has used >1% of battery since the last full charge so it doesn't seem…
If you're using WebSocket, how do Google and Apple see metadata? Can someone explain why it's so difficult to make a decent chat app divorced from their ecosystems?
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
#8Signal still uses proprietary blob and uses google/apple service for notifications. Use molly.im instead which has solved these problems.
The native Signal android app delivers notifications just fine without Google play services on my degoogled android.
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
#9you can't wave your hands, say "zero knowledge", and be private. this is too little information to be useful
Re: Registration without a phone number on Signal will use zero-knowledge proofs
#10Lots of discussion at that link, but what's the bottom line? Can you register without a phone number yet?