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Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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> GPT4 gave the correct answer in 1/10th the time it would take Priya and cost a lot less. [...] Priya has tried to learn coding, but she has struggled. Not that she gets a lot of time to do it either.

1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time.

2) Let her use part (50%+) of the time saved to learn coding or whatever other skill she needs (not sure coding is it).

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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post #2

> GPT4 gave the correct answer in 1/10th the time it would take Priya and cost a lot less. [...] Priya has tried to learn coding, but she has struggled. Not that she gets a lot of time to do it either. 1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time. 2) Let her use part (50%+) of the time saved to learn coding or whatever other skill she needs (not sure coding is it).

> 1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time.

Why would I subsidize that as a business owner? I can fire 9/10ths of the people who do that job instead.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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post #2

> GPT4 gave the correct answer in 1/10th the time it would take Priya and cost a lot less. [...] Priya has tried to learn coding, but she has struggled. Not that she gets a lot of time to do it either. 1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time. 2) Let her use part (50%+) of the time saved to learn coding or whatever other skill she needs (not sure coding is it).

Exactly, while there is some merit to the article's argument, I don't think it holds any water in this case. GPT4 will lie to you [0] and you need the human to figure out when that's the case.

[0] https://simonwillison.net/2023/Apr/7/chatgpt-lies/

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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> GPT4 gave the correct answer in 1/10th the time it would take Priya and cost a lot less. [...] Priya has tried to learn coding, but she has struggled. Not that she gets a lot of time to do it either. 1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time. 2) Let her use part (50%+) of the time saved to learn coding or whatever other skill she needs (not sure coding is it).

Exactly, while there is some merit to the article's argument, I don't think it holds any water in this case. GPT4 will lie to you [0] and you need the human to figure out when that's the case. [0] https://simonwillison.net/2023/Apr/7/chatgpt-lies/

> you need the human to figure out when that's the case

Do you? I mean, you and I think you do in order to do a good job, but does that hold water? The last decade or so of technological "progress" in the commercial space should leave few illusions about the willingness to obstruct processes and damage the interactions between people to save a few bucks.

As tech gets more capable, the human interactions with it are getting worse. And if you hate phone trees now (I do!), GPT4's contribution is adding ever deeper, infinitely patient tools for stalling you when you have to call for things.

Hell, we already have plenty of stans in the HN comment sections actively claiming that no, of course you shouldn't hold LLM purveyors responsible for their hallucinations, the desired universe is liability-free! If you've already bought into societal enshittification for a buck and there are no penalties, why would you worry about being right?

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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This is a really pessimistic and shallow article.

Who will prompt the AI for code? Manager?

Also, you mentioned it gave wrong result at first. How did you know? Because you know how to code.

As mentioned in other comment she should learn more about programming so she can become indispensible.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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> GPT4 gave the correct answer in 1/10th the time it would take Priya and cost a lot less. [...] Priya has tried to learn coding, but she has struggled. Not that she gets a lot of time to do it either. 1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time. 2) Let her use part (50%+) of the time saved to learn coding or whatever other skill she needs (not sure coding is it).

> 1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time. Why would I subsidize that as a business owner? I can fire 9/10ths of the people who do that job instead.

Train people to use GPT-related tech to become superhuman team members. You can do it all yourself, sure, but that doesn't scale. You can either train GPT-tech to use GPT to scale or train humans. Right now, reliability is the most difficult issue, so humans are essentially to ensuring the results are correct.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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post #2

> GPT4 gave the correct answer in 1/10th the time it would take Priya and cost a lot less. [...] Priya has tried to learn coding, but she has struggled. Not that she gets a lot of time to do it either. 1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time. 2) Let her use part (50%+) of the time saved to learn coding or whatever other skill she needs (not sure coding is it).

Why? No really: why? Businesses are profit-seeking entities. Why not just fire nine people? You save money.

(Yes, this could be a really stupid decision for the company in question. I agree with you. I'm not saying what should happen. I'm saying what will happen, and that that is really bad.)

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