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Show HN: Docu – Never sign a sketchy contract again. GPT-4 contract review

#1
A simple tool for people like me whose brain hurts when they read any legal document full of bloated jargon.

It's called Docu and it's makes contract review super simple. It gives you a very readable summary, highlights beneficial clauses, flags potential risks, and gives you actions you can take to make the contract work for you.

Build on OpenAI assistant API using a combination of prompts.

https://docu.review

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#3
Good job! I've been playing with something similar in OpenAI Playground to asses contract's I get from my clients. It saved me a lot of time going through all the lengthy legal nonsense. This looks like a pretty nice free tool that take's this idea further. But it must be expensive to run. I guess it uses the retrieval functionality and it must feed the whole contract to the prompt to work properly. So I guess it won't stay fee forever. I thing there could be a lot of demand for something like this but with more advanced functionality like edits done automatically to the contract. I'm really looking forward for AI to replace lawyers in the future.

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#4

Is there any reason why I should use this rather than using ChatGPT Plus directly to do this? What is the moat for this tool?

Feels like less work on prompting but yeah, curious to know what are the next steps and how its going to be better than GPT

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#5

Is there any reason why I should use this rather than using ChatGPT Plus directly to do this? What is the moat for this tool?

Feels like less work on prompting but yeah, curious to know what are the next steps and how its going to be better than GPT

We've really put in the work tweaking the prompts to save you the hassle. It's quick, free, and gets straight to the point.

Right now, it's a basic MVP just to show that the idea works and to start chatting with some initial users. We've got plenty of ideas for making it better and adding new stuff, but we really want to hear from users first before diving into our own idea pool.

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#6
I definitely appreciate that running something locally or self-hosting is way more work than most people would want, but there's still something a bit weird about wanting to "never sign a sketchy contract again" but just blindly trusting assertions that "We don't store your data", "We follow security best practices", and "We use strong 256 bit SSL encryption". Is this just a tool you made to scratch your own itch and decided to share it in case anyone else finds it useful, or are there plans to monetize this in the future? The proclamations of privacy and security don't convince me as much as open sourcing it and letting me run it myself would, but I imagine you wouldn't do that if you were planning to try to turn this into a business.

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#8

This service likely violates rules against the unauthorized practice of law in many (most?) jurisdictions in the United States.

It uses the common for new and short-lived services (but, IIRC, not generally effective -- but don't trust me, see an actual lawyer) technique of using marketing language selling it in terms which describe legal advice, but then including a small print disclaimer at the bottom of the extremely long page saying that the analysis provided should not be treated as legal advice.

Re: Show HN: Docu – Never sign a sketchy contract again. GPT-4 contract review

#9
I don't mean to shit on your efforts here, but this is a terrible idea as-executed. You trained your model on contracts. Contracts are full of any abusive bullshit anybody thinks they can get away with. You needed to train this on actual law to see what clauses are even enforceable.

As a worst-case example, I fed it a BDSM contract. (It was cute when it asked me to choose my role.) These are in no way legally enforceable and the state has actually prosecuted people who tried. Your tool will find few issues with people enslaving themselves.

Highlights:

> You are giving up all of your things and your body to your master.

> The master can terminate the contract at any time, but the slave cannot, which is highly non-standard.

> The contract states all possessions and assets of the slave become the master's property, which is unusual.

> If the contract ends, the master keeps everything and you get your body back only

"Non-standard?" "Unusual?" This shit is life-ruining if unchallenged.

Slavery Contract Contract Summary

    Slave's Commitment
    The slave agrees to obey and please the master completely without any boundaries, unless they use their veto power in specific situations.
    Slave's Veto
    The slave can refuse commands that lead to legal issues, extreme life damage, permanent bodily harm, or psychological trauma.
    Master's Responsibility
    The master is responsible for the slave's safety, well-being, and possessions, and can command, train, and punish the slave.
    Rules on Punishment
    The master can punish the slave but must not cause permanent bodily harm or specific forms of severe abuse.
    Contract Termination
    The contract can be ended by the master at any time. Upon termination, the master keeps all possessions unless they decide to return them to the slave.
What's Beneficial

    Slave's Veto
    You have the right to say no to commands that could get you into legal trouble, harm your life significantly, cause permanent physical harm, or cause serious psychological trauma.
    Master's Responsibility
    The person you're in this contract with agrees to take care of you, your wellbeing, and your possessions. They also commit to treating you properly.
    Rules of Punishment
    Any punishment you receive can't cause permanent physical harm, like drawing blood, burning, or causing internal bleeding.
    Permanent Bodily Harm Clause
    Your safety is a priority. Anything that permanently damages your body can be a reason to end the contract if you want to.
    Secrecy and Privacy
    Everything about this arrangement should be kept secret unless you both agree to share information. Any breach here allows you to end the contract.
Potential Risks

    Complete Submission Without Boundaries
    The contract says you have to obey the master in all ways without any boundaries. This could be a problem because it doesn't consider your personal limits, except in very specific cases.
    Ownership Over Your Body and Possessions
    You are giving up all of your things and your body to your master. This sounds risky because if anything goes wrong, you might be left with nothing.
    Agreeing to Any Punishment
    You have to accept any punishment, whether you deserve it or not. This could be used to mistreat you, even though there are rules against causing you serious harm.
    Termination Only by Master
    Only the master can end the contract whenever they want. You mostly can't, which seems unfair to you.
    No Ownership After Termination
    If the contract ends, the master keeps everything and you get your body back only. You might be left with nothing else, which could be very bad for you.
Standard Practice Comparison

    Ownership of Assets
    The contract states all possessions and assets of the slave become the master's property, which is unusual. Normally, contracts don't transfer all personal assets without specific terms and usually involve compensation.
    Health and Safety Provisions
    It outlines provisions to protect the slave from permanent bodily harm, which is a positive aspect considering health and safety, but such clauses are typically more detailed in standard contracts.
    Right to Terminate
    The master can terminate the contract at any time, but the slave cannot, which is highly non-standard. Contracts typically allow both parties some form of exit.
    Confidentiality
    The contract requires secrecy of the relationship, which is common for privacy concerns, but the extent of control over personal freedom is extreme.
    Modification and Veto
    Alteration of the contract requires mutual agreement, which is standard, and the slave has a veto right in specific situations, providing some balance of power, which is a fair practice.
Recommendations

    Understand Your Right to Veto
    Know that you can say no to any order that's against the law, could seriously mess up your life, hurt you permanently, or mess with your head in a bad way.
    Know Your Safety is Priority
    The person in charge is supposed to look after you and keep you safe. They need to handle you with care, teach you things, discipline you if needed, but above all, keep you safe.
    Be Aware of Punishment Rules
    If you’re being punished, it shouldn't go too far. No cutting, burning, anything that stops blood from flowing right, internal bleeding, knocking you out, or keeping you from the stuff you need to survive like food, water, and sunlight.
    Know What Counts as Permanent Harm
    You shouldn't end up with any lasting damage. This means no dying (obviously), no broken bones, cuts, or diseases that don't go away. Plus, be clear about tattoos, piercings, or haircuts. You have to be okay with it.
    Remember the Contract Can End
    If the person in charge does something against the deal, or if you get seriously hurt, you could choose to end the deal. They can end it too, but there are special rules about when you can stop it from your side.

Re: Show HN: Docu – Never sign a sketchy contract again. GPT-4 contract review

#10

This service likely violates rules against the unauthorized practice of law in many (most?) jurisdictions in the United States.

Then again if the guild who entrenched this law starves for some years the law might go away..
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