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Show HN: Linen – Make your Slack community Google-searchable

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Hi HN! Kam here. I’m the founder of Linen.dev https://linen.dev, a website that makes your public Slack community Google searchable. Linen will sync your Slack threads and make it SEO friendly so your community can find Slack content that was previously hidden.

Previously I worked on a popular open source project which had a sizable Slack community. Slack was great for engaging with community members and with early sales. However as community scales Slack becomes this black hole where context becomes lost. Most public communities can’t afford to pay for several hundred/thousand members so they are limited to 10,000 free messages. You run into the problem of people asking repeat questions and not searching in Slack. It also doesn’t help that the Slack UX encourages posting and not searching. We experimented with Github discussions and Discourse but didn’t want another channel to maintain and split the community on.

With Linen I wanted to build a tool that is very low maintenance without changing my current workflow. By making it search engine friendly and putting it on a website the community members can find answers to repeat questions before ever getting into your Slack channel. Linen is the first result that comes up on Google if you search for “seeing a weird issue with flyte” https://www.google.com/search?q=seeing+a+weird+issue+with+fl... or “replace beast http with proxygen” https://www.google.com/search?q=replace+beast+http+with+prox....

As a side effect of syncing conversation to a website you end up with a very long tail of unique and relevant content for your community. Linen is free to use and get setup but I offer a paid version (I am still figuring out the pricing model for it) where you can get the content redirected to your own subdomain where your domain gets all the SEO benefits.

Linen is built with Nextjs, Node, Typescript, React, Prisma for the ORM and using AWS aurora for the Postgres db. I chose Nextjs for the server side rendering capabilities and wanted to share types between client side with Typescript. I’ve also enjoyed working with Prisma as the ORM since you don’t have to write a lot of boilerplate with other ORMs. I've also been pretty happy with Vercel and Nextjs especially with the server side rendering and client side caching it provides.

Here are a few communities on Linen right now:

https://osquery.fleetdm.com/

https://discuss.flyte.io/

https://calendso.linen.dev/

https://community-chat.infracost.io/

https://community-chat.signoz.io/

https://airbytehq.linen.dev/

The product is very simple right now but I want to add features like related questions detection with semantic similarity, integrating with Github to notify the thread when it is finished, auto thread detection for conversations that aren’t in thread form.

You can sign up for free today at https://www.linen.dev. I am doing manual onboarding at the moment to get better feedback and to manually walkthrough some of the less polished parts of the boarding flow.

p.s. I’m actively working on supporting Discord on Linen so would love to hear from anyone that is interested

Re: Show HN: Linen – Make your Slack community Google-searchable

#4

If you can share, how do you retrieve data from the Slack group? Scraping as an invited user? A public slack app? For some communities, that could be a massive amount of webhook traffic! Neat idea :)

Sure! Right now a community admin that adds Linen to your Slack workspace. I have webhooks listening for any message events which gets mirror and saved to the Aurora postgres DB. On install I also have a cronjob that hits the Slack api and pulls the old Slack conversations.

For scaling wise the I host the webapp on Vercel where it is backed by lambda functions. I also am using AWS aurora for postgres which in theory should help a ton with scaling the DB. I've done Heroku db hosting before but found that AWS tends to be much cheaper.

Re: Show HN: Linen – Make your Slack community Google-searchable

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I love stuff like this. With so many communities congregating on Discord, Slack etc. we lose a lot of valuable information that would previously have been on something publicly searchable like StackOverflow. A lot of OSS has fallen into this pattern and it can be truly infuriating at times.

Re: Show HN: Linen – Make your Slack community Google-searchable

#7

Can you see yourself offering a migration path off of Slack in the future? Your interface is much more accessible not just to Google, but also to this human. I would love to have an option to migrate off Slack with continuity.

Thanks! Not sure of the migration path off of Slack at least in the near term since there is a lot of pull in to Slack since most people in professional setting already is familiar with the UX. I do think there is something there for a layer on top of Slack or Discord where information gets moved.

I want to explore making this tool available for internal teams once I have more features around productivity like related questions, summarization and confluence/docs integration. These seem useful for internal teams but need to assess whether people actually want this.

Re: Show HN: Linen – Make your Slack community Google-searchable

#8

I love stuff like this. With so many communities congregating on Discord, Slack etc. we lose a lot of valuable information that would previously have been on something publicly searchable like StackOverflow. A lot of OSS has fallen into this pattern and it can be truly infuriating at times.

Yes! This is the exact problem I was hoping to solve with Linen. I felt frustrated that there was so much good information being hidden in Slack and Discord communities. I also was annoyed at slack links in Github issues that leads no where because it was archived historically.

Re: Show HN: Linen – Make your Slack community Google-searchable

#9
Congratulations on the launch! It looks helpful and easy to use.

Two bits of feedback:

1. The threading seems off in places. I looked at the linked osquery site, and there were some top-level items that seemed like replies. Maybe that's just a result of people replying in a channel instead of a thread, though.

2. I see character entities in code sections, instead of their corresponding characters. For example, an XML snippet has tag names surrounded by < and > instead of (example: https://osquery.fleetdm.com/t/5378/Anyone-can-point-me-to-so...).

Re: Show HN: Linen – Make your Slack community Google-searchable

#10

I love stuff like this. With so many communities congregating on Discord, Slack etc. we lose a lot of valuable information that would previously have been on something publicly searchable like StackOverflow. A lot of OSS has fallen into this pattern and it can be truly infuriating at times.

And not only is Slack harder to search, free Slack instances limit history to 10,000 messages, so older messages effectively disappear.
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