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Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by monksy »

bhouston wrote: post #43
monksy wrote: post #5

Ummm no. You're late to the game. Also, you're not established. If anyone has a claim to this, it's Voat. (Despite their difficulties)

Why is this being downvoted? Voat.co is really winning this space, mostly because of timing and exploiting an opportunity.

Law 32: Play to People's Fantasies

http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-32-play-to-p...

A lot of people feel that a "decentralized social service" would be great. It hits a techies' ideas: free, open, unfiltered, uncontrolled by government.

I personally feel that it's too much like dispora: Too much tech, too little network, and a bit unproven that its a reliable/convincing network. I believe that Voat [like reddit after the digg-fail] hit a sweet spot. Although they've been a little unprepared and may be a little naive about how dirty their opposition may be.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by empressplay »

frizbee wrote: post #86
empressplay wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still not following how that's any different than just owning a subreddit. If I own a subreddit I can moderate the posts in it. Under your model, you're suggesting that I can "moderate" posts that initiate from my server, but not others, and once again I'm still not sure what advantage that has over owning a subreddit?

Frizbee itself is not going to censor their content.

So if I want to host content that other people would generally find objectionable I can set up a node and use you essentially as a wider distribution platform? And if I didn't want objectionable content on my node I would have to monitor it 24/7 to catch incoming posts? Unless I'm able to ban 'playlists' from my node.

Am I able to ban entire "playlists" from my node?

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by flashman »

steveeq1 wrote: post #28
keedot wrote: post #16

I honestly hope one of these takes off. I don't want to ever go there, I don't take amusement in other people's suffering. But seeing so much outrage on reddit from assholes bitching that they can't be racist/bigoted/loathsome on a private forum screaming about freedom of speech which belies their own ignorance makes me long for the days of gopher. I find it repugnant, and I'm glad to live in a country where I'm free…

English translation: "I believe in freedom of speech. . . except for things that I find offensive" There is no such thing as hate speech in a free speech environment. There is no guarantee you won't be offended.

More like, "Nobody is going to stop you saying what you want... but they're going to hold you responsible for the consequences."

That's all any of us wants.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by DanBC »

duncan_bayne wrote: post #36
keedot wrote: post #16

I honestly hope one of these takes off. I don't want to ever go there, I don't take amusement in other people's suffering. But seeing so much outrage on reddit from assholes bitching that they can't be racist/bigoted/loathsome on a private forum screaming about freedom of speech which belies their own ignorance makes me long for the days of gopher. I find it repugnant, and I'm glad to live in a country where I'm free…

"I'm glad to live in a country where I'm free to say anything, but hate speech is prosecuted." I'm going to be optimistic for the future of humanity, and assume that was a (masterful) troll.

That's a very common sentiment in eg England.

Americans tend not to realise that their free speech laws are sometimes seen as extreme in Europe.

It's not surprising they used a throwaway, they already got downvoted.

(It wasn't me.)

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by na85 »

frizbee wrote: post #90
__z wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its even worse than that. Navigation is just totally broken. For example I clicked your link then on that page I clicked Our Manifesto. The URL changed to https://frizbee.co/#OurManifesto5589a552786d5 but the page content did not change! This seems to happen all over. Totally dont need to re-engineer hyperlinks. They are hyperlinks! (logo in the left hand corner does change the url to https://frizbee.co/#HotPosts but…

These glitches have since been fixed.

Performance is awful on my i7.

You should use less js. I should not be able to watch things being indented and layouts being modified as the page loads.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by empressplay »

Also, the "view counts" on the website are pure BS -- the comment view counts don't grow at the same rate the thread view count does, for example. The thread view-count grows at almost a clockwork rate, etc.

I know, I know, Reddit pulled similar stunts in its early days but it still feels a bit dodgy.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by aptwebapps »

bhouston wrote: post #75
pervycreeper wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure how that's relevant. Voat appears to have too few differentiating features to be a significant threat to reddit. Frizbee, on the other hand, appears to be something genuinely new. As far as the other claims in that post go, the administrator of 8chan has compiled a more accurate recounting of this controversy here: https://medium.com/@infinitechan/what-do-we-know-about-voat-...

That is a pretty good synopsis - thanks.

Some of the asides are, well, take a look:

It’s worth nothing that PayPal’s only value is in decrementing values on one side and incrementing them on the other, a preschool exercise it nonetheless somehow routinely fails to carry out. 180 days to do some adding and subtracting is asinine.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by koko775 »

rjbwork wrote: post #71
iLoch wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think minimaxir was "dissing" voat.co, just stating facts. As for voat's success, I can't see how it can ever hope to supersede reddit - or even come close to competing with reddit - given that it is indeed a blatant clone. There's no real redeeming qualities of voat that are not already present on Reddit.

I personally am not using voat yet, but think that the fact that ModLogs are totally public and open instead of being hidden away and largely controlled by a couple of cabals of users is a huge plus. I don't see voat as being a long term viable thing though, since it's just one kid in college and the recent surge of users was largely driven by an exodus from reddit over banning politically incorrect speech.

Harassing people and subreddits whose moderators encouraged and supported harassment go well beyond just "politically incorrect".
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