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Re: Show HN: Lazy Tetris

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admtal wrote: post #79
the_af wrote: post #65

Was this vibe coded with AI? Based on one of your replies here, and your post history, I think it is. I also think some of your comments here are also AI-generated, e.g. this one where you both posted a submission and asked yourself to "stop posting AI generated garbage": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36841921

Yup, vibe coded with rosebud ai from my phone, and some ChatGPT I swear I can code for real, I was just having fun

Can you explain this comment you posted a while back, on your own HN submission (you talking to yourself?):

> "Adam, congrats on your book, but please stop spamming this message board with your AI Generated garbage"

Note if the above sounds aggressive, I didn't write it. You did... in reply to yourself! To be honest it seems as if you're writing comments using an LLM, and the LLM got confused.

Re: Show HN: Lazy Tetris

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Post by rplnt »

johnisgood wrote: post #86
GolDDranks wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is crazy, because the shapes are just an idea, and you can't copyright ideas. They also couldn't be a trademark infringement (IANAL, though) if you don't use them in your branding.

Trying to copyright shapes or blocks of various shapes is wild to me.

They don't claim copyright on the mechanics. They pursue trademark violation. If it has falling tetrominos, it might be confused with Tetris, is the idea. You can use different shapes and be fine.

Re: Show HN: Lazy Tetris

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Post by wgjordan »

jsheard wrote: post #54
ddtaylor wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Tetris mark as a whole has an amazing history. It's a mark that was created from the ashes of a state that didn't allow trade and was involved in conflict and is kind of a marvel at the amount of cooperation that needs to happen for something like this. It's basically all edge cases. Going after "clones" that have similar gameplay is wrong and they should (and likely do) know better. This has been resolved with H…

AIUI it's some weird legal sleight of hand where they don't (and can't) actually own the Tetris gameplay mechanics, but they have successfully argued in court that the appearance of the game constitutes their trade dress, and in practice you can't really implement the Tetris mechanics without the result looking like Tetris. TTC is the gaming version of Oracle in that one meme[1], 90% of their raison d'etre is just to…

Not just 'Tetris' (and *-'tris') trademark and Lanham Act trade dress, but they have also successfully argued in court [1] that the 'look and feel' of Tetris constitutes its copyrighted expression. In that case, Tetris Holding argued (and the judge agreed) that even the use of the seven one-sided tetromino playing pieces was part of their copyright.

Here's the description of the only Tetris gameplay mechanics the judge in this case conceded cannot be protected:

> Tetris is a puzzle game where a user manipulates pieces composed of square blocks, each made into a different geometric shape, that fall from the top of the game board to the bottom where the pieces accumulate. The user is given a new piece after the current one reaches the bottom of the available game space. While a piece is falling, the user rotates it in order to fit it in with the accumulated pieces. The object of the puzzle is to fill all spaces along a horizontal line. If that is accomplished, the line is erased, points are earned, and more of the game board is available for play. But if the pieces accumulate and reach the top of the screen, then the game is over. These then are the general, abstract ideas underlying Tetris and cannot be protected by copyright nor can expressive elements that are inseparable from them.

[1] Tetris Holding, LLC v. Xio Interactive, Inc. (2012) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=180648822600252...

Re: Show HN: Lazy Tetris

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Post by maplant »

eternauta3k wrote: post #97
maplant wrote: post #80

If you happen to find the opposite of this fun, check out Tetris the Grand Master 4 which just released on Steam.

I thought the opposite would be https://qntm.org/files/hatetris/hatetris.html

Apparently this tetris clone has a relatively unforgiving piece generator, so I'd say the opposite would something on the other end of the speed spectrum
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