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Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by TheFreim »

cma wrote: post #90
teamonkey wrote: post #73

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You need to follow people, not block. Unlike Facebook or X there is no strong algorithm (although feeds are technically custom algorithms, but they're mainly lists of people or posts that contain certain keywords) but once you follow enough people, you pretty much only see their content, more-or-less in order. If you don't follow enough people, your feed is filled with whatever's trending at that moment. Blocking whe…

There are also curated "booster packs" with one click following of everyone in a category (type of artist, industry, etc.)

The booster packs, at least the ones I've found, don't help at all. I followed a handful of tech-related booster packs and more than 50% of the posts are merely political at best, rage bait at worst. I'm going to have to find a way to unfolloe everything or just not use the site.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by liontwist »

7373737373 wrote: post #84
liontwist wrote: post #66

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I’m surprised to find someone who still believes “non profit” carries any weight. These are all propaganda sites. The value is the influence.

Bullshit, not every founder or organization is morally bankrupt. Have a look at Lichess or the Blender Foundation. (Ethical) values are an essential aspect of any organization, and at least for me, these are shining beacons of humanity.

> not every founder or organization is morally bankrupt

I didn’t say that. What I said is the word “non profit” has no bearing on it. And it may even be a negative signal, as the organization wants to appear neutral or moral.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by teamonkey »

TheFreim wrote: post #91
cma wrote: post #90

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There are also curated "booster packs" with one click following of everyone in a category (type of artist, industry, etc.)

The booster packs, at least the ones I've found, don't help at all. I followed a handful of tech-related booster packs and more than 50% of the posts are merely political at best, rage bait at worst. I'm going to have to find a way to unfolloe everything or just not use the site.

I really don't like them for that reason, but I do sometimes find them useful as a list that I can scroll down to see if there's anyone I recognise that I don't already follow.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by ericjmorey »

iteratethis wrote: post #64
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #40

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This is incidentally why Mastodon seems to be less bad now. That group of people went there first, but then Mastodon's user growth stalled by some strange coincidence. Then they didn't want to be on the one that was apparently in decline so more of them switched to Bluesky. Which is kind of sad because from a technical perspective Bluesky seems to have some advantages (provided they fully extricate any dependencies o…

Mastodon's lack of growth or even perpetually declining MAU is not a coincidence. The community is obsessively anti-growth. It's politically intolerant in the sense that the vibe is left to hard-left, and even within that sphere there's lot of infighting. Sure, you can use Mastodon as a normie centrist, but the culture is unappealing to many. Any attempt to plug Mastodon into other decentralized media (Threads, Blues…

I've come to a similar conclusion about Mastodon.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by ozmodiar »

petesergeant wrote: post #62
arccy wrote: post #57

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The perfect web comic for this: https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/meme-girls/bansky/viewer?...

I don't get it, could you explain it?

If there's one thing I don't think you get banned for on Bluesky it's porn so that comic made zero sense.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

shafyy wrote: post #52
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #40

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This is incidentally why Mastodon seems to be less bad now. That group of people went there first, but then Mastodon's user growth stalled by some strange coincidence. Then they didn't want to be on the one that was apparently in decline so more of them switched to Bluesky. Which is kind of sad because from a technical perspective Bluesky seems to have some advantages (provided they fully extricate any dependencies o…

> Whereas Mastodon/ActivityPub has some flaws that are going to cause real long-term problems if they're not addressed, e.g. tying accounts to a specific instance combined with the propensity for instances to ban other entire instances or ban small/new instances by default, which will have the unfortunate propensity for market concentration. I don't think these are problems. Compare it to how email works nowadays, an…

> Compare it to how email works nowadays, and it's very similar.

> And good luck running your own email server, you'll also get marked as spam by most.

That's exactly the problem. You don't want that to happen.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

spencerflem wrote: post #72
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #43

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I want to disagree with the first two of those: > BlueSky is mostly centralized and easier to understand. No server choice stuff It's not supposed to be this way even though it is right now. They're intending for it to be actually fully federated. But the "server choice" stuff is a bug in the existing design of Mastodon anyway. It shouldn't matter which server you pick because you should be able to change it at any t…

BlueSky is also centralized in terms of search, for pragmatic reasons. You can search across every bluesky post and cannot on mastodon, for better or worse. I'm on mastadon, but its clearly harder to use, and theres way lower engagement.

There is a difference between search being centralized (as in there is only one search provider) and just being indexed by third parties, in the same way as the whole web can be searched by both Google and Bing. The second one is clearly what you want for public posts, and could even be implemented locally for private posts (because then you don't have to index the whole internet, only the people you follow). It doesn't need to be centralized to work, and better if it isn't.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by halyconWays »

spencerflem wrote: post #74
halyconWays wrote: post #33

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I think Bluesky's content is largely defined by the crowd of people that left Twitter. Like Voat when Reddit had its embrace of censorship, only the other way around: opposite politics, and it's more based around being upset that perceived extremists are being given a platform.

It's worth mentioning - for those who don't know Voat - that it was a wasteland of Racism, Antisemitism, and Genuine Honest To God, Stated Plainly, Can't Miss It Naziism. I was interested in it back when it was called Whoaverse because reddit sucks (obviously) but it devolved fast and hard.

It became that, due to the people that Reddit banned first. For quite a while (I forgot it was called Whoaverse) it was far more how Reddit used to be, with open discussions.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by spencerflem »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #97
spencerflem wrote: post #72

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BlueSky is also centralized in terms of search, for pragmatic reasons. You can search across every bluesky post and cannot on mastodon, for better or worse. I'm on mastadon, but its clearly harder to use, and theres way lower engagement.

There is a difference between search being centralized (as in there is only one search provider) and just being indexed by third parties, in the same way as the whole web can be searched by both Google and Bing. The second one is clearly what you want for public posts, and could even be implemented locally for private posts (because then you don't have to index the whole internet, only the people you follow). It does…

To be fair, that second model is what bluesky has. You can run another indexer, but unlike mastadon where you only have to deal with interactions to posts that involve your instance's members, with bluesky you have to be able to keep up with the entire firehose at once. So its cost prohibitive for all but big orgs.

It does mean search (and as importantly, likes and comments) are globally consistent so there's def a trade off.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by ipaddr »

unethical_ban wrote: post #31
ipaddr wrote: post #30

I went to the homepage for the first time. First post was someone saying they want to be a designer for the campaign that had Waltz name on it. Then you have Patton Oswald tell people never be friends with Nazis because they have Nazi friends. I decided to visit twitter homepage but it asked me to signin. I went to the homepage for Mastodon. It had comments about new science discoveries, tech, some politics but more…

Perhaps the Bluesky recommendations are less tailored/curated and have to do with globally trending comments. Which while having some downsides, it is nice that the filter bubble doesn't close around someone too quickly. I also assume that Bluesky as the political refugee camp from Twitter means it has a lot of participation from the liberally politically active at this moment. (Patton Oswald's post was not vile, jus…

Really I found Patton Oswald post to be so vile it tainted all the other posts. Don't ever listen to people outside of your identity group even when they are right and they are helpful, save your kids from drowning because you may form a bond and then one day you realize you are close to someone outside of your identity group. Of course his story had strawman of a Nazi in some impossible scenario.

How truly awful to break out of fake identities and connect to a real person on a human level. On the one hand you have Martin Luther King Jr sacrificing his life just so others can do that and on the other side you have some drunk, almost famous pile of garbage who wants to separate anyone different so he can live in some bubble in some world where the biggest bubble gets to crush everyone elses. He needs to crawl back into the segregated hole he came from.

I didn't expect it from someone so privileged. It's just the worst of humanity.

Parts of bluesky are parts of the fediverse. So are parts of threads and wordpress now.

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